goth

goth
1. (Goth) (14522↑, 4641↓)
Someone who likes the darker side of things. They usually listen to death metal and goth music, such as Dismember and Bauhaus. Marilyn Manson is NOT goth. He's just...weird. Real goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see at Hot Topic. Goths are fun to be around and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. Goths don't all dress alike either. They like to create their own unique style. Goths are also very intelligent and creative. A lot of them are writers and artists. Goths DON'T envy the popular people. They are what they are because it makes them happy. Goths would rather stay who they are and be among the so called "freaks" than be like everyone else and be popular. They understand that there are more important things in life than popularity, and usually succeed in life while the popular ones don't become much of anything. If someone becomes "goth" because they couldn't get any friends or are depressed and angry all the time, they are most likely a poser.
2. (Goth) (4786↑, 1527↓)
The goth, that thing that lies at the opposite end of the spectrum of society to the chav. A goth will walk alone where a chav will hide inside his herd and though the goth may take a beating at least that goth was never a coward. A goth will insult only those who have earnt it whereas a chav will insult people for things as shallow as the clothes they are wearing. A goths insult will be witty and cutting, a chavs insult more often than not will consist of the chav making a repulsive noise. A goth will enrich their mind, a chav will watch soaps. In the morning, a goth will ask themselves “what do I want to wear?” whilst a chav will ask themselves “what in this selection of clothes is the most acceptable thing to wear?” A goth will have a friend because they are good for someone, a chav will have a friend because that someone is good for them. A goth approaches new situations with a willingness to think and find the best way forward, a chav will react with aggression to that which it does not already know. A goth will listen to music that is meaningful to their life and thought provoking, a chav will listen to music which will tell him how to behave. Goths have no interest in popularity whatsoever. They think outside the box. People aspire to be popular and dress in certain ways that are ‘in’ with everyone else simply because it has never occurred to them how pointless societies values really are. In truth, there was never any point to any one of us being born. We’re doomed to struggle onwards in our skins, attached to life only by mechanisms put in our minds by evolution never to find any relief and never to find any meaning. We’re just all stuck with it now, together (and yuk to the simply stunning amount of ignorance I have to put up with). Conformity assumes that what another has thought of is better than what you can think of on your own but why is one mind better than another? (the conformist who argues that their own opinion is truth is a hipocrite, a really ridiculous laughable hipocrite) Its not is the truth. I am a goth and I aspire to value my own intuitions as much as I would value anyone elses (as much, not more you fools\!) therefore I don’t care if you don’t like me because I DO. I look strikingly different to everybody else, you chavwits think I am attention seeking when in fact I look different because of my total lack of interest in you lot, you lot and that vile sort of dress code that is ‘the norm’. Its not that I want you to notice me, its just that I haven’t bothered to noticed you\! I do as I please\! But then again, so say the chavs. The difference in effect is that I have a brain. I realise that randomness of behaviour (as in anarchy) is a force of pure destruction without the input of thought. I know what I want for myself, plenty of cash, love, freedom, peace and I know that that’s pretty much what everybody else wants too. Therefore, I treat others as I wish to be treated myself. I would never stand in the way of anothers achievement because if I did how would I deserve to achieve anything of my own? Goths, in my experience (others as well as myself) are thoughtful, intelligent, hard working, kind, honest, well mannered. I have an education and I like when it shows\! As a goth, all you various ‘rude’ forms of life make me sick. Goth is what the individuals do- and as for the idea of the wannabe goth these either revert to conformity or evolve.(I mean slipknot/korn fans, as for manson fans I think those who say he isn’t gothic just don’t know enough about him- sure listening to manson WILL NOT make you gothic, but give that poor dark philisophical soul some credit\! He’s certainly not gonna un-goth you\!) Wannabes are a transitional category but if they are to be acknowledged at all, they are not goths. Goths make the greatest friends. Goths have the unusual ideas. Goths just don’t suffer from the same afflictions of ‘normality’ as you self-mirroring lot- change for once. down with mediocrity.

try the question why are we here? it might get you thinking try focusing on the meaning of things rather than your pre-held assumptions about everything

3. (goth) (4482↑, 1691↓)
There are two definitions 1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people. 2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god.

1) I like this kind of goth and aspire to it. 2) I am not a "goth".

4. (Goth) (2835↑, 581↓)
1) A germanic tribe who invaded the late roman empire along with the vandals, visi goths etc and actually became more civilized afterwards. 2) An building style used in medieval times and later in victorian times. 2) A literature style of which Dracula and ther supernateral horrors were written in. 3) A music genre that came about in the 80's as an of shoot of punk. 4) A subculture of people who originally listened to Goth music. Now has increased to fit Industrial and Black/Death metal followers. Goths are typically seen as morbid, wearing black clothes almost all of the time, and wearing make up regardless of sex. Also seen to be more open minded to other cultures, sexualities etc. 5) Prententious people who listen to Nu metal who think they are goths but really teenagers who know nothing of music.

(Goth/Industrial bands: Bauhaust, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails KMFDM. NON-Goth bands: Korn, Linkin Park, SLipknot.)

5. (Goth) (2108↑, 844↓)
To a Scally: Someone wearing black clothes, and make up. To a 12 year old Linkin Park fan: Someone who likes Korn. To a goth: I'm not a goth\! Really: A tribe of eastern european barbarians that sacked rome in the 4th century. The name of an artistic style, associated with clothing, and architecture
6. (goth) (2392↑, 1520↓)
Ok,since this subject seems to be VERY controversal,I'll go through some things you may think and what you don't know,you see,I've actully MET some people who follow the Goth culture(labels suck) Here we go... 1.Goths are suicidal -Ok,let me begin by saying anyone can be suicidal,Goths,Preps,Jocks,Nerds,ANYONE.Just because someone dresses in black or listens to Rock music and stuff doesn't make them suicidal. 2.All goths are gay or lesbian -Once again,this is a topic that anyone may be,not just these guys. 3.Goths are evil/worship satan -This is what those damn Catholic Fanatics made everyone believe,ok,so they may seem dark or even...scary,but that doesn't make them satanic.Satanism is a RELIGION,not a trend. 4.All goths should die -I am against the killing of anyone because of their likes/dislikes/looks/tastes. Hopefully,this guide has given you insite that no matter how different people seem,we all are capable of the same shit. But,here's one that may save you If you don't like someone,leave them the fuck alone\!Don't waste your life making their's hell because they don't look or act like you.

Oh my god,she's such a goth...

7. (goth) (930↑, 188↓)
Goths do not and have NEVER liked metal of any kind. Metal fans who call themselves Goth are wannabes. Perioid. Goth generally ONLY listen to Gothic music which sounds NOTHING like metal. Goths hate metalheads and Goths hate emo kids. 96% of the people who use the word Goth have NO IDEA what it means.

Goths think metal fans are white trash.

Author: antimetalsupergoth http://goth.urbanup.com/4006162
8. (goth) (1191↑, 454↓)
Goth was originally a term used to describe people with a taste for certain bands eg: Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, etc. in the '80s when punk started to fade out, and with wardrobes predominantly black. In the 90s and early 2000s the goth subculture seemed to change to include bands such as Nirvana, Linkin Park, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, etc. Many goths have a cynical outlook on society and have an evolved sense of humor which has gone beyond the "Ya ma" as an insult and will laugh at others, and at themselves in a healthy way. Goths don't usually care what other people think of them, and don't care if they don't fit in. Goths don't care, either what sexuality, religion, etc. other goths are, and we don't take the piss out of gays because we aren't homophobes. If you shout insults after a bunch of goths, alot of the time, they might not be offended, but take pride that people are realising that they're individuals.

S/He listens to "Gothic rock" S/He lives a goth lifestyle.

9. (goth) (775↑, 314↓)
A word that needs to stop being defined.

You all don't know shit

10. (Goth) (455↑, 105↓)
Just another person in this world.... Lives, Breathes, Dies. THE END

Random Person1: Yo dude look at the goth chick\! Random Person2: Why? Random Person1: Eh....

Author: Someone Anyone. No one.... http://goth.urbanup.com/1462540
11. (goth) (559↑, 250↓)
Culture devoloped from punk in 1979. Sterotype wears black clothes, nail polish, eyeliner and has black hair and listens to the very un-goth Marilyn Manson. Many types of goth. Examples: CYBER GOTH Loves plastic, nightclubs and the future. Loves (gasp\!) bright colors and usually has plastic hair. VAMPIRE GOTH: Often Satanic. Sucks blood from partner and has sex in coffins. ROMANTIC GOTH: Very elegant. Wears lots of velvet and lace. Aims for Medieval/Victorian look. Loves vampires and poetry. POSER GOTH: Listens to Marilyn Manson. Wears only black. Is a right saddo. Goth music: Bauhaus, The Cure, Switchblade Synphony, etc. MARILYN MANSON AND LINKIN PARK ARE NOT GOTH MUSIC. Remember, GOTH is just a label made up by a bunch of losers to call the darker ones.. Real 'goths' do not label themselves. A self-proclaimed goth = big [poser]. Gothic stereotype = morbid, suicidal and black-clad. Not always true. You could dress like [PARIS HILTON] and still be part of the 'goth' scene.

'That dress is so 'gothic\!' (Phrase often used by preps when entering poser clothing store [Hot Topic]. 'I'm not a goth.' said Lulu.

12. (goth) (500↑, 233↓)
As a subculture: Goths are people who are obviously unique or different. Most choose to dress in black or darker colors showing what they feel for in life. Not like what alot of people say, Goths don't always wear black since they wear bright colors too. Also, not many Goths do suicide since that is stereo-typing. If you actually think about it, more Preps kill themsleves due to stress and pressure. Anyway, Goths are usually the ones who don't speak much, dyes their hair in strange colors, shows mostly dark, creative artwork, and such. They're not limelight hungry, they people who say they are, probbaly are. Goths are different, but that doesn't mean that they aren't human. To say, for whichever's better or worse, Goths are anything, but ordinary. It's not a crime to be beautiful, but it is one to take beauty away from others.

Prep-\>OmfG\!\! That Goth is so tacky. Like, just look at her clothes\! Goth-\>What'd you say? Prep-\>Like you didn't hear me? I sai- Goth-\>Fucking bitch. (straight-on punch to the face) Prep-\>(falls down)omg..my make-up is ruined\!\! Goth-\>As if I'd care..(walks off)

Author: KittizxKatz http://goth.urbanup.com/958312
13. (goth) (335↑, 83↓)
A word that has so many definitions no-one really knows what the fuck it means now.

"Wow, are you a goth?" "Man I don't know..."

14. (Goth) (317↑, 105↓)
A great bunch of people once you get to know. They aren't pathetic and stereotypical like the ones criticising them.

- Ohh look there is a Goth - Yeah, she's fucking ugly\! - Damn Straight - Hey, let's go cornhole each other\! - Great idea

15. (goth) (373↑, 174↓)
A follower of the Gothic subculture. Goths almost always have an above-average IQ, if not well above-average. They are usually from middle-class to upper-class families. Goths are often the target of much stereotypes. People believe (usually these people are [pikey] or [scally]) that they think often of death, suicide and are very pessimistic. This, however, is not true at all. Most goths are very artistic in many ways. They are very skilled at literature, poetry, art and music. They can also have an entire conversation without have to resort to the pathetic, common slang terms of today. People believe goths are satan-worshippers, who praise satan and wish to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity after they die. But this is not true. Most goths are either Buddhist or Pagan. Both of these religions rule against: violence of any sort, eating of other beings and mass comsumption of any type of drug (tobacco, alcohol etc). So now you'll realise what a goth really is. And you will treat them with respect and dignity

Go to a place where somebody can be peaceful. There you will find goths.

16. (goth) (296↑, 105↓)
On urbandictionary.com, a word with a lot of really, reeeeeeeeealy long definitions.

I'm sure more people would understand the term goth if the definitions weren't as long a friggin' book.

17. (Goth) (202↑, 50↓)
A Goth is someone who sees beauty in the dark side of life. Today's society is focused on negating darkness because it is associated with evil. Think about it - in almost every fairy tale, who is the antagonist? The brunette. Who is the protagonist? The blonde. Dark is evil, evil is bad, and therefore we should wipe all trace of it from our lives. Unfortunately, that's simply not possible. No matter how hard society tries, people still die. Day turns into night. Love becomes loss. It's a fact of life. So while everyone else is denying an entire half of life, the Goths embrace ALL of life, good and bad. Goths understand that the best and most lasting joy is tinged with a little sadness, and that all love is bittersweet. Goths understand that not everybody has to be happy 24/7, and that the way to succeed is not by pretending you are. Sunlit skies are beautiful, yes, but so are dark cloudy ones. What is white without black? What is a rose without thorns? Thus, by embracing the shadows as well as the sun, Goths are, in many cases, actually more emotionally healthy than those in mainstream society. Plus, we get to wear much cooler clothing and listen to far better music\!

Boy \#1: Look, a Goth\! Boy \#2: How do you know? Boy \#1: She's dressed in dark clothing and has those funky eyeliner swirly things. How weird. Let's go hit on her. Boy \#2: Just remember to mention that you totally dig Marilyn Manson. Girl: Ugh, what a slut. Why can't she just dress like a real person? (stomps off in a jealous fit)

18. (Goth) (188↑, 37↓)
REAL GOTHS ...Are victims of streotypical assumptions Do not worship Satan Are not depressed Are quite happy Can have friends Don't always listen to Gothic music Dress how they want to dress, not always in black Don't sit around complaining about not having friends, they don't want friends, a real Goth is happy being a social misfit Often don't want to be referred to as a Goth POSER GOTHS (Sometimes known as [emo]) Will call themselves goth, note they don't use a capital letter to start the word Pretend to worship Satan, although its rare that they actually believe in Him Will act depressed all the time, no matter what he/she is really feeling Will dress in clothes purely from Hot Topic, Planet 13, Starsnstripes and places like that One Band Wonders, think that they're so Goth coz they listen to a band that is sometimes labelled as Gothic, such as Slipknot, where as in actual fact Slipknot are nu/death metal Dress only in black, pure attention seekers

Poser Goth: You're such a poser. You think you're so goth, but you don't even listen to Slipknot\! Goth: ....okay..like I would care what you think Poser Goth: You make me sick\! You're not even wearing black\! And you call yourself a goth\! Goth: I never called myself a Goth, that was a label invented by people like you, real people don't need labels

Author: nymphetamine http://goth.urbanup.com/1664243
19. (goth) (190↑, 55↓)
Suggestive of a dark, morbid outlook on life, but not without a sense of humor. Often associated with vampires, cemeteries, and other trappings of death and isolation. An outgrowth of the post-punk New Romantic movement that spawned such musical groups as Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure. The controversy rages about what "is" goth and what it isn't, as various members of the subculture jockey for credibility. Basically, if you have to ask someone if you're a goth, you probably aren't, and no one person is the ultimate judge of who and what is or is not goth. Except maybe Robert Smith.

Do we really need another definition of "goth"? Probably not, but here it is anyway.

20. (Goth) (177↑, 66↓)
GENERAL GOTH: TRUE: A Goth is someone who is usually into the darker side of the world. Where punk is mostly about government, freedom, and politics, Goth is mostly about religion(theology), philosophy, and mysticism. A true Goth is not a depressed suicidal person. They are deep into thought and feeling, know who they are. A goth, not Gothic, or Gothics (that's socially incorrect, it really pisses them off, at least the real ones, not the poseurs), generally do not worship Satan, although you can be a Goth and of any religion, many are Christian, and I know a few that are Catholic. Goths likes to be individual and often creates or modify's their clothing. Usually consisting of mainly black. Spikes are usualy not a goth thing. Tribal designs and religios related jewlry are common, such as crucifixes and pentagrams. Most are very intelligent and creative, and dont necissarily do drugs, think about murder, cut themselves, or sacrifice animals, and again with the worship Satan thing. Although many of them are pagan or wiccan. If someone "becomes a Goth" because they couldn't get any friends or are depressed and angry all the time, they are most likely a poseur, actually just take out the whole most likely part. You are who you are because it is who you are, not because of the things that make you a poseur. The music a Goth may listen to can range to almost anything. Usually it consists of Gothic( ex. London After Midnight), Goth rock (69 Eyes) , metal(Slayer), electronic industrial (Zeromancer), industrial (Marylin Manson, Rammstien) , electro, techno (Infectid Mushroom, Chemical Brothers), even some punk, horrorpunk.But some goths even listen to classical music, and I dont mean classic rock, I mean classical like Beethoven and Mozart. All and all, goths are very open minded, they dont hold anything against people they dont know. They dont care what your religion is, or what your sexuality is, or wether you like them or not. Goths, like punks, do not lable themselfs. OTHER FORMS OF GOTH: TRUE: Many other subforms of goth exist, but unlike how the punk generas are rather similar and your eather punk or not, the subforms of goth are derasticaly different and may need some definition. VICTORIAN GOTH: A victorian goth is someone you might see in a vampire movie. For example Interview With A Vampire, Dracula (not 2000 but the older ones). Dress in the Victorian Renesauns styal, like a duke, or a count. Think velvet and lace. mmmm. VAMPIRE GOTH: Same as Victorian Goth, just often wear false fangs, wear a fang shaped glass pendent on their neck with liquid that looks like, or may be blood. May drink their partners blood. Also very deep into vampire fiction and culture. CYBER GOTH: Love plastic, and ::eyes wide open:: bright colors. May wear plastic spikes, plastic clothing (not vinal thats different, in a way even though its plastic) and have bright clored hair or wear a plastic wig. Often wear goggles too, such as the ones Vin Desal wears in Pitch Black, and The Chronicals of Riddic. They didnt get this from those movies, most likely the producers of the movie got it from the cyber goth culture. Cyber goths go to clubs offten, and are really into the future, and futuristic sceans. Sence we are attempting to define what Goth is, why dont we describe what it isnt as well. What is a Poseur, yes that is the correct spelling, not "poser". POSEUR: TRUE: Looks like a punk or a Goth, but does it for fashion. They don't have the heart, or the soul of the culture they are pretending to be part of. May listen to punk, metal, industrial, gothic, Goth rock, techno, electro, etc. , but also listens to crap like listed under the FALSE punk section of my definition for punk. A poseur may also attempt to call a band, like Blink 182 for example, hard core, or hardcore punk. A) those bands arnt punk, B) hardcore, and hardcore punk are an entierly different subgeneras of music. Just like emo is a pathetic subgenera of poseur punk, or pop punk. A Poseur may also say and do things because they are trendy, or because they see and hear other poseurs and punks/goths, and people in bands say them and do them. This is another thing that makes them fake. Also, this isnt 100% always true, but many times every article of a poseur's clothing may come from Hottopic. FOR YOUR REFERENCE: you can apply all the things above to gothic subculture, or any other culture or subculture in the world, just change the criteria. Inevitably, a poseur is just a wannabe, no one likes wannabes. IF ALL OF YOUR CLOTHING COMES FROM HOTTOPIC, OR ARE TRIPP NYC BRAND OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, YOU ARE NOT PUNK NOR ARE YOU A GOTH. YOUR NOT NECISSARILY A POSEUR EATHER. YOUR JUST SUCKER. You may also want to see my definition for punk.

Eric Draven (Brandan Lee [R.I.P.]) in The Crow, was definatly a goth befor he died and became the crow. London After Midnight and 69 Eyes are great gothic/goth rock bands. The tital of the movie "Gothica" is pointless, it has nothing to do with the movie, and has nothing to do with gothic subculture.

Author: Ice Cold Anarchy http://goth.urbanup.com/1582711
21. (Goth) (150↑, 45↓)
’Goth’ is not about Satan worshipping, scaring people or shocking them. It is a lifestyle, an art. It's beauty, showing people who you are. ‘Goths’ tend to have true depth and insight and an opinion worth listening to. There thoughts are darker and they perceive things differently to how other might do. ‘Goths’ have a way of recognizing the beauty of things that seem so morbid and tragic to others, although anyone can see these things ‘normal people’ usually tend not too.

Someone- That person wears black she must be a goth\! 'Goth'- Quit with the fucking labels\! I AM JUST ME\!

22. (goth) (140↑, 36↓)
Commonly, it refers to one of three things: music, lifestyle, and fashion, though it is not seen as proper to designate one's self as goth based purely on their manner of dress, and most goths do not publicly proclaim themselves as such anyway. The gothic subculture tends to have a poor reputation because so many of the people who choose to label themselves as such know nothing about the culture, and involve themselves in juvenille or melodramatic behavior that they feel "is goth". Musically, it refers to an alternate form of rock that first developed in the late 70's as a post-punk form of music. This early, guitar driven form of goth is commonly called "death rock". The guitars often serve as an ambient rather than melodic instrument, drumming tends to be dance oriented and the vocals are often somewhat haunting or distant. Lyrics deal heavily with introspection, nilhilism and the occult, though most assume it deals strictly with satanism. Many gothic bands mix industrial elements into their music, leading some to believe that all industrial music is gothic. Common bands associatdd with the term include The Cure, Bahaus, 45 Grave, Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, etc. Lifestyle-wise, there doesn't appear to be a lifestyle that all gothics follow, though some seem to share similar characteristics, which can include an interest in occultist themes, poetry, religion, introspection, gothic literature (which was written some time during the Victorian Era), folklore, etc. Most gothics are known for regularly attending dance clubs that play gothic and industrial music, and some are also known for their interest in the S&M culture. Fashion-wise, there tends to be a lot of accessories, and the most common of which are victorian/medieval inspired (velvet and lace, pirate shirts, corsets, etc.), bondage inspired (slave bracelets, chokers, large boots, fishnet and mesh clothing, clothing made out of PVC, leather, rubber, latex or vinyl), or punk inspired (bondage pants, leather jackets, spiked or studded jewelry). Gothics have a tenendency to wear mostly black, though sometimes white or red, and have their hair dyed, usually purple or jet black (the hair is also stylized in a certain fashion, usually mushroomed out like Robert Smith of The Cutre, dreadlocked, or black with bangs like Emily (the mascot for a line of products of the same name), or other similar, outlandish designs. There is also a tendency for theatrical-style make-up (white foundation with black emphasis around the eyes and sometimes mouth). Goth fashion is sometimes mistaken for the on-stage presence of black metal groups.

Many think that bands such as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails are goth rock bands, but they're really just commercialized industrial music.

23. (goth) (190↑, 87↓)
there are two ways to look at the word goth, u can see the 'phase' side where kids do it mostely for attention and pretend to be depressed and grow out of it after a year or so the second is the much more realistic yet more rare side to the meaning goth, firsty 99% of them dont worship satan 98% of them are not and proably never will be insane and pretty much all of them (who aren't in the phase group) are just being them and are just making there mind up about music, clothes and there attitude towards life. The steriotypical goth wears black with maybe a bit of red or purple, has alot of silver and listens to heavy matel/goth music yes its true this is proably a goth but goths arent alway like that. to put a label on someone is wrong but in this sense its just the most common way of life

"he's wearing black, he's different, lets go beat him up"

24. (goth) (211↑, 114↓)
goth: Sans history lesson, goths fall into two categories: 1. People, usually quiet misfits, who are often quite intelligent and creative. They tend to focus on the darker side of life, particularly human nature. 2. [more common] High school/college students who, by dressing in black and listening to heavy metal, attempt to make sure everyone around them is aware of how cool and individualistic they are. That their individualism centers on dressing, thinking, and acting like everyone else in the clique doesn't seem to bother them. Can often be found writing bad psuedo-suicidal poetry in wirebound notebooks. They usually drop the facade as soon as they realize that no one around them, including their parents, is shocked any more. 1. "Hey, see the goth over there? Go ask to see her artwork. It's really cool." 2. "Ohmigod, did you, like, read the new Anne Rice book? I am, like, so glad I'm a goth\!"
Author: accidentally lost http://goth.urbanup.com/322239
25. (goth) (95↑, 19↓)
I won’t reiterate what others have said about true Goths. However, I will say this. There is one thing I do disagree with that so far I have read in every entry. It is the music. Why do Goths have to listen to certain genres? I thought true Goths are open minded. So why so close minded for the matter of music? Granted, Marilyn Manson and Simple Plan are not goth, nor punk. That does not mean they can’t be listened to by a goth.

Linkin Park, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Marilyn Manson, etc. are not gothic music, but they are musicians. The 69 Eyes is Gothic Rock, but you can still dislike them and be a goth. I like them, but it doesn't mean someone else does. It just like any type of music, you have to enjoy it to listen to them. Since Goths think for themselves, listening to other genres other than goth is okay.

Author: Aranel Phoenix http://goth.urbanup.com/1679184
26. (goth) (104↑, 33↓)
Initially a musical genre that emerged in the late 70s post punk era, Goth evolved into a full-blown sub culture a few years later with the evolution of Gothic fashion and imagery. A movement with a seemingly infinite ability to re-invent itself Goth has survived over 2 decades and has continued to evolve and grow in this time. However this propensity to re-invent itself has lead to a form of “identity crisis of Goth” in which even its most fervent adherents can no longer agree on a definitive answer to the question “What is Goth”. In recent years the music industry has applied the term “Goth” rather broadly to various musical styles, which they seem unable to categorise, resulting in some confusion between various genres and the fans thereof. Unlike many of the subcultures than went before Goth does not seek to rebel against society, highlight its flaws (as was the case with the punks of the 70s) or define itself in terms of opposition to other sub cultural groupings (as was the case with the mods and the rockers of the 60s). As press interest in the genre continues, other sections of society have begun to define normality as “that which is opposed to Goth,” a common mainstream reaction faced by all subcultures at one time or another.

Goth music originated in the late 70s and has evolved and reinvented itself many times since

27. (goth) (151↑, 86↓)
1. Tribe of barbarians that invaded the Romans. 2. People use this to describe themselves when they are ignorant little bastards that have nothing better to do in life than mope around, be depressed, and talk about suicide. There is a better label for these people: posers. 3. Usually creative, strong, independent thinkers who are fun to be around and generally don't care about popularity. They attract friends who are like them, who aren't necessarily gothic but enjoy a good time and know how to think for themselves. Even if people you label "gothic" and stay away from look scary, actually try talking to them. You'll find that generally they are funny and interesting and aren't afraid to say what they think. 4. Goth music. Buahaha. Good stuff. Think Nine Inch Nails. Yaay. o0 5. People are not always poser goths just because they like "poser" bands like Linkin Park and Evanescence. Though they are NOT goth bands, there are some truly gothic people who just enjoy their songs because they like the tunes and stuff. Just because a few of Evanescence's songs have the word "suicide" in them doesn't mean that all the people who like them cut themselves up for no apparent reason. But sadly, there are very many people who call themselves goth, are all depressed and STUPID, and listen to those bands just because they think that they're going to be cool because they're listening to *ooh* death and suicide and brokennes... god, people like that make me angry. Sooo angry.

1. Your history teacher: "So you've got your West Goths, and your East Goths, and the Vandals, and they invaded the Romans, and..." You: -Not listening- Zzzzz... 2. Rich ass kid who has nothing beter to do than whine: "I'm a goth, my life sucks, go away, I think I'll kill myself now, BTW do you know I'm actually a vampire?" 3. Some... person: "You know that goth girl that always looks uber scary? Well I actually talked to her, and she's really nice..." 4. Duh: Avril Lavigne = NOT goth music NEVER NEVER NOOOO 5. a) I guess I like Linkin Park and Evanescence, but I'm not a suicidal freak or anything... I just like the way their music sounds. b) Lyk OMG i'm a goth and i can prove it look i LOVE evanescence and lp and i slit my wrist...

28. (Goth) (102↑, 43↓)
I have a lot of friends who follow the Goth subculture. Yes, Goths mainly dress themselves in black and possibly some black nail varnish and listening to metal tunes and such, but saying that all of them are drug-addicted, suicidal satanists is a pathetic generalisation. Not all Goths are like that, in fact i haven't met one of them with that kind of lifestyle. And even if they are, its their choice, and they don't deserve the hassle they get from close-minded idiots.

Leave Goths alone. Its their choice what to do with their life. You wouldn't like it if someone insulted and beated on you due to your lieftyle, would you?

Author: BadLieutenant http://goth.urbanup.com/792303
29. (goth) (74↑, 22↓)
Ah, the widely controversial "goth" label. I say label because for most, that's all it is. A simple category for putting people into little, clearly-marked boxes. It can mean as little as a stereoptype or as much as a way of life. What any person's view is on the Gothic culture depends mostly on their experience with it, their past experiences in general, their susceptibility to outside influences, and their attitude on the strange and the unknown. The term "Gothic" has had many definitions over the course of history. I believe other definitions have about covered the origins, so I'll instead focus on the most contemporary incarnation. Common "Gothic" Myths: 1) All goths are suicidal: If you yourself believe this, give yourself a good slap upside the head with a dictionary. The majority of Goths are fun-loving, happy people who view suicidal people as somewhat disgusting and do not include them in their definition of what is goth. 2) All goths wear black: Again, slap yourself upside the head with a dictionary if you firmly believe this. Any true goth will admit that they like wearing color on occasion. In particular, cybergoths enjoy very much the brightest colors known to the human mind. 3) All goths listen to marilyn manson: Sigh. Look, kids. Whether manson is goth or not I don't care to discuss, as there are valid arguments on both sides, but the fact is, a good chunk of true goths don't even LIKE manson. Some goths don't even like rock/metal/hardcore music. GASP\! Moreover, Gothic cultue is simply a very deep connection to the darker side of life, an acknowledgement that everything is not "peachy," and that things like sadness and grief are very real and must be dealt with in order to maintain a healthy mind and body.

"I'm so goth, i cut myself all the time." "I'm not goth."

Author: raven of roses http://goth.urbanup.com/1542654
30. (goth) (85↑, 36↓)
Someone that doesn't follow the norm of society. A very artistic person that doesn't have to follow the stereotypes given by gay ass preps. They don't have to follow a certain "dress code" or religeon. They can be Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or whatever.

1)I dress gothic every day and go to a Catholic church in my daily attire. 2)A Catholic school kid blessed himself when I walked by after school, LOL\!\!

Author: The Finkster http://goth.urbanup.com/1475385
31. (goth) (54↑, 18↓)
There's more to the gothic subculture than most people think. Being a 'goth' is wrongly interpreted because a lot of younger kids (in the range of, say 13 - 18) made the gothscene rather stereotypical. If you would ask 20 random people what they think of if they hear "gothic", they'll probably say "black"/"piercings"/"morbid". This is not true, actually, gothic was commercialized by bands like Marilyn Manson and Nightiwish. In fact, gothrock has it's roots in new wave, wich was a reaction to punk in the late 80's. But there's a lot of other music goths listen too, hence there are a lot of different "goths": cybergoths, punkgoths, victorian goths, wavegoths, gothrockers, or combinations of those. All of these groups listen to different styles of music and dress differently: Cybergoths: listen to electro(general name for industrial/neofolk/ebm/darkwave/etc.) and wear a lot of latex/pvc or neon colours. Usually they've got a lot of synthetic coloured hairpieces in their hair, but there are a lot of exceptions. Punkgoths: are a combination of goths and punks, they usually listen to punk, punkrock and gothrock. Victorian goths: these are the goths people 'know', they listen to gothicmetal and a bit of gothrock in general. But this can vary. Victorian goths wear a lot of velvet. Usually gowns, corsets and other clothes who could've come right out of the dark ages. Wavegoths: this type of gothic has a lot of different names, were I live, they're called wavegoths, but I've heard other labels, so this may vary. Usually people who kind of "imitate" the newwavers of the late 80's. They wear lots of black and adore vintage, normally, but again, there are exceptions. Gothrockers: is a part of the subculture who listens to gothrock. A lot of gothrockers claim that that's all they need to be goth. For them, the music is the most important, the looks don't matter all that much. And at last, we've got the so-called "wannabe's"/"posers" or "spooky-kids": these are the people who - in my eyes - made the subculture stereotypical and commercial. But I'm old enough to not blame them, they're just kids who want to be someone. Anyway, they wear a lots of black, lots of black makeup, listen to commercial gothic. A couple of examples: marilyn manson, slipknot and of course the more commercial gothrockbands. But bear in mind that my definitons are stereotypical. There are thousands of goths out there who can't be labeled like this. Some cybers listen to newwave too, etc. I hope I 've helped you with explaining the gothic subculture. p.s: I am belgian, so excuse me if I wrote things wrong. My english isn't perfect. =)

Bear in mind that my definitons are stereotypical. There are thousands of goths out there who can't be labeled like this. Some cybers listen to newwave too, etc. I hope I 've helped you with explaining the gothic subculture.

32. (Goth) (58↑, 22↓)
A Goth is someone who likes the different side of things. They have their own choice in music, and they don't care if no-one else likes it or not. "Real" goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see around town. Goths are fun to be around with and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't all worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. Goths don't dress alike either. They like to create their own unique style. Goths are also very intelligent and creative. A lot of them are writers and artists. Goths DON'T envy the popular people. They are what they are because it makes them happy. Goths would rather stay who they are and be among the so called "freaks" than be like everyone else and be popular. They understand that there are more important things in life than popularity, and usually succeed in life while the popular ones don't become much of anything. If someone becomes "goth" because they couldn't get any friends or are depressed and angry all the time, they are posers. A goth will walk alone where a chav will hide inside his herd and though the goth may take a beating at least that goth was never a coward. A goth will insult only those who have earnt it whereas a chav will insult people for things as shallow as the clothes they are wearing. A goths insult will be witty and cutting, a chavs insult more often than not will consist of the chav making a repulsive noise. A goth will enrich their mind, a chav will watch soaps. In the morning, a goth will ask themselves “what do I want to wear?” whilst a chav will ask themselves “what in this selection of clothes is the most acceptable thing to wear?” A goth will have a friend because they are good for someone, a chav will have a friend because that someone is good for them. A goth approaches new situations with a willingness to think and find the best way forward, a chav will react with aggression to that which it does not already know. A goth will listen to music that is meaningful to their life and thought provoking, a chav will listen to music which will tell him how to behave. - There is actually no specific way to describe goth, because it really is unique...but I just wanted to make it clear to people that "Goth" isn't all evil and blood and gore and whatever, because goths can have fun, laugh and enjoy themseves. This is all my point of view, and sure, everyone has their own, and that's fine with me, just as long as I don't get dissed for what I believe, because that's prejudism, and it's usually the goths that suffer prejudism, because people think all they do is waste their lives away by slitting their wrists and posing around looking all scary, but it really isn't so. Goths have no interest in popularity whatsoever. They think outside the box. People aspire to be popular and dress in certain ways that are 'in' with everyone else simply because it has never occurred to them how pointless societies values really are. Society assumes that what another has thought of, is better than what you can think of on your own but why is one mind better than another? Goths make the greatest friends. Goths have the unusual ideas. Goths just don't suffer from the same afflictions of 'normality'.

A goth can tolerate the surrounding world. A Chav makes fun of anything that crosses his way, unless it suits him. A goth can dress however he feels on that day, while a Chav only wears what his friends will accept as "cool".

Author: Fliss Taylor http://goth.urbanup.com/1529838
33. (goth) (88↑, 58↓)
Along with some history thingy about Vikings or another. Goth is a shallow label stuck onto some consumerist subculture originally cultivated as an architectural design, but has grossly mutated into a fashion statement for slightly alienated teens (and occasionally adults). I have read a lot of these definitions, and most of them define the "true" goth and the "wannabe" goth. Let me just say this: There is no difference. It doesn't matter if someone spends $500 a week on mass-manufactured Hot Topic merchandise, or sits in their room for hours reading nihilist literature and/or casting spells from Barnes and Noble spellbooks. There is no label for it. And no, there aren't different "subcategories" of the "goth" sphere. There are those that call themselves "goth", but how are they worse than those who call themselves "true" goths? Why not just be yourself and to hell with the labels? There is no point saying "Most are teenage losers who need to validate themselves with fashion, but I, of course, am a true GOTH." It makes you sound just as arrogant and presumptuous. Shop at Hot Topic, Abercrombie and Fitch, Value Village, wherever, just... Don't bother categorizing everything, most especially fashion statements.

Wannabe: "I dress in black all the time and listen to Cradle Of Filth." True: "I wear darker colors, most often black and medieval styles, and like to study philosophy and art. Wannabes suck." Me: "I dress in red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, black, white, silver, and all colors and 'styles' in between. Is an emergency vest 'gothic'? My friends are the same ways, so give up the labels.

34. (Goth) (52↑, 23↓)
Goths tend to have a dark and perverse sense of humor, a love of history, literature, and music, and far too many bottles of black nail polish. But trying to slot goths into orderly little sections is pretty much impossible. The spectrum of interests, styles, and activities is far too broad. Sometimes the clothes can be a clue, but not always. Just look for that appreciation of darkness--that's the most reliable indicator. The "classic" goth music scene and the industrial music scene, there are people on both sides who shun the other. Some goths who like the "classic" look of velvet and lace look down upon goths who prefer fishnet and leather. Some goths who like pop-culture entertainments and things that are lighthearted are ostracized by others who believe that nothing is worthwhile unless it is obscure and dark. Like any culture, it has divisions and cliques. Being goth is, in the end, a form of tribalism, a way for people of like interests and mindset to find each other and have a place to belong. Like most tribes, goths will often try to keep out those who are not "of" the tribe (hence the pretentiousness and disdain for "poseurs"). But it can also be a wonderfully welcoming and comfortable place for those who do fit in, and full of patience and enthusiasm for people who are genuinely interested in finding out what we're about. Goths will try to keep out those who don't belong and those who are interested in exploiting us because we look different and have interests outside the mainstream; but we will also try to protect our own. For someone who doesn't feel that they really "fit in" with mainstream culture, discovering gothdom can be a wonderful feeling. Of course, this is just the URBAN definition - we needn't forget the extinct Germanic tribe. However, another note, there is no such thing as "goth" literature, or "goth" architecture, despite what many would lead you to believe. Please refer to [gothic]

"Goths are not really that terribly different from any other subculture. They just dress more imaginatively"

35. (goth) (67↑, 40↓)
A goth is just a person, usually one who appreciates both the "positive" and "negative", the "yin" and "yang", "good" and "evil" aspects of life. Usually goths believe that there's nothing in this world that can be completely spelled out in black and white. Usually goths tend to wear black clothing, ornate with metal, but also often enjoy interspersing it with bright colours. A lot of goths dye their hair or have piercings, or wear lots of makeup... which is more an artistic outlet than anything. I guess goths just focus on the dark side of things, because to do so is to be on sort of the "other side" of most of society, which they do enjoy, regardless of what they say. Often goths shop at the hot topic, which doesn't automatically define one as a poseur. Nor does it make someone gothic to shop there. Gothic music doesn't make much of a presence in society these days, though darkwave/industrial/synthpop/black,death metal are often mistaken for "gothic" music. Music that is actually gothic? Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, The Cure, etc. These bands are listened to by many people who are not gothic, and no one at the time really labelled it as such. Gothics are just members of an almost completely undefined subculture. Gothics are generally good, benevolent, empathetic, artistic, intelligent, well-read people. There is the odd asshole, but the same can be said for every group. Gothics almost always can appreciate all kinds of music. Many gothics enjoy listening to Enya. Many gothics enjoy listening to Motorhead. Many gothics enjoy listening to New Order. See the point? There is no real definition, but Gothics is Gothics. We just are what we are, and we only ask for a bit of kindness and understanding, even though we are just a bit strange. =)

Examples of gothics: Pure goth: Usually found dressing in sort of old-school european style clothing, with lots of black. Often found listening to Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, etc. Often is a strong supporter of animal rights, or a vegan. Usually subscribes to some form of paganism. Industrial-Gothics: Usually wears clothing that depicts a post-apocalyptic Mad Max style motif, often seen with a trenchcoat. Most often have a "harder" personality, but unlike pure "Rivetheads" the classic industrial club-goer, they tend to be a bit less immature and full of rage. Often found listening to music like Nine Inch Nails, Switchblade Symphony, Skinny Puppy. Perkigoff^_^: This is the kind of gothic who often wears a lot of clothing that is considered gothic, but conveys a lot less serious and sombre attitude. Can be found listening to just about anything, and often this person is more of a "weekend" goth... i.e. they work normal jobs and generally have a lot of friends that are not goths, as well as friends who are. This is I have to say the most common type of goth. Common Goth: Sort of a cross between all of the above. Most goths dress gothically on a very regular basis, unless at work. Most goths are generally very happy, friendly people. Most goths are also very somber at times. In other words, that was useless babble\! But hopefully it's helpful to you.

Author: Shiny pants... and uhh blue hair? Bloody hell is so scary about that? http://goth.urbanup.com/681357
36. (goth) (60↑, 35↓)
goth is a subculture that grew out of the punk culture in the 80s. i will agree with non-goths in that most goths are very evasive when it comes to defining the term "goth." i will also agree with them in that "goths" who simply whine and make fun of non-"goths" are pricks. most "goths" don't really know what it means to be goth. the gothic period (late 1700s-1800s) was a period of the "sublime." rather than look for skin deep beauty in something, the gothics would look for intellectual or moral value. for example, they would prefer a battered old castle staircase to a sparkling new marble staircase because the old one has more character. the TRUE goths of today are named this way because they follow this thought pattern of looking for the thought-provoking instead of the aesthetic. why revel in the darker side of life? "sinister" things (i.e., death, fate) provide more food for thought than pretty things (i.e., blue skies, love). thinking in this rather morbid way usually results in the true goth being rather satirical. SOMETIMES they may be withdrawn and maybe a little snide, but this is because knowledge is a burden. the pseudo-goth (the one everyone thinks of when they hear "goth"; bear in mind, i do NOT consider these people goth) is some middle school douche who shops at hot topic and listens to music in the gothic genre (i.e., bauhaus) whether or not they actually like the music. they are quick to judge people and make fun of them every chance they get. then theres the TRUE goth (like me). we think in the manner of the people of the aforementioned gothic period. some of us are "artsy" simply because we can express our knowledge so freely in it. we don't *neccessarily* shop at hot topic (though they have some cool shirts) and we don't *neccessarily* listen to goth music/death metal (i like pink floyd & queen). we are intellectuals. most of us are pretty nice. many goths are outcasts in some perspective, so they are often receptive to people who need a friend.

fake goth (aka valley girl goth): like, oh my goth, gag me with a crucifix\! i got this bauhaus shirt because ellen and julia and megan and paula have it\! i'm so individual\! i wish i knew what bauhaus was... real goth (like me): ...style doesn't make a goth; your thought process is most important

37. (goth) (101↑, 81↓)
A survivor of emotional or physical abuse. They tend to enjoy the darker side of things. Goths aren't always: -Morbid -Suicidal -Dressed in black -Wearing bondage -Depressed -Gay/Lesbian -Cutters -Self-harmers -Shoppers at Hot Topic -Rude -Mentally disturbed

The goth poser always bitched and complained about his life.

Author: Chrys Whitewood http://goth.urbanup.com/1424332
38. (goth) (54↑, 33↓)
A person who is themselves,so what if they wear darker clothing,and some,not all are depressed.they are people.they usually like different music/art then others,and are usually very funny and nice.

Look around,you'll find some.

39. (Goth) (29↑, 12↓)
A goth person can be many things. Most goths tend to be thoughtful and interesting. They tend to define themselves as different with no interest in the mainstream, and also enjoy the heavier side of music. Many of the so called "goths" in here have polluted this site with their slanted views and thoughts. They believe that people who listen to Nu Metal are posers. This is untrue. The fact that they scream "faggoth" at people who enjoy their own types of music are more poser-like than the accused. Goth is more of a state of mind, a state of thought. Goths will support what they want to support, and listen what they want to listen to. Their values go deeper than those of people in the mainstream, and they generally are very sociable. True goths have their own taste and way of life. The so called "true goths" bash them because they enjoy music that they dont like. There is really no such thing as a goth poser. All poser images are based on opinion only, and are very biased. There are many types of goths, with many different outlooks on life. Some are depressed, some are happy, but most are very cerebral and deep people. Goths enjoy heavy music in general, such as death or black metal. Some lighter genres are permitted, and should even be celebrated, because they have their own taste. Goths should never shape their taste to the mainstream just because other people do, and they are the ones who are true posers. You will be able to spot them very quickly. Some goths may support gay rights, some may not, but among the goth circles, opinions are welcomed. The point of being goth is having indiviuality.

I enjoy the soft music of A Perfect Circle, and I also enjoy the rough death metal of Cannibal Corpse. Poser goth: Dude, you like Slipknot\!?\!? youre a fucking poser\!\!\!

40. (Goth) (24↑, 8↓)
Gothic literature: Literature primarily about horror and romance, and includes supernatural and victorian themes. Writers: Edgar Allen Poe, Anne Rice History: Goth can be traced back to victorian ages. But it was launched in the UK by punk bands like Siouxsie Sioux who began wearing bondage clothing and topics of victorian age and gothic literature and art and more intelligent thoughts. Goth Music: Music including dark atmospheres. Examples include and genres: Post Punk: Siouxsie Sioux, The Cult Goth Rock: Clan of Xymox, London After Midnight, The Cure, Bauhaus Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, Frank the Baptist, Alien Sex Fiend Dark Cabaret: Voltaire, Emilie Autumn Gothtronic: Anders Manga, Gary Numan, Blutengel Genre's and bands that aren't goth. Marilyn Manson, AFI, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, KoRn, Type O negative, HIM. Any form of metal music Gothic metal, and death metal, are not goth. Most likely if its mainstream, its not goth. Fashion: There are many kinds of gothic fashion. But the basic things are boots, mostly dark attire, pale skin, hair that isn't brown. The "do it yourself" is a heavily emphasized part of the culture. Check gothic tribes for more detail. General Pieces: Fishnet, Black nail varnish, colored hair, dark eyeliner, leather, metal (steel), buckles, bondage pants, hobble skirts, dress shirts, ties, top hats, red lipstick, black lipstick, dress shoes, combat boots. Truths and False. From the point of goth creation, its been morphed many times. Goth has been hit by many different accusations such as violance and satanic rituals. Myth: Goths are violent Truth: Its wrong to accuse a whole group based on one person's action, so its a maybe. But goth does not support violence. Myth: Hot topic is goth Truth: No, hot topic is a coporation. Goth originates from punk, and punk has emphasized on anti-corporation/government. In short terms, hot topic markets for mass appeal and attention, so no its not. Myth: Goths are satanic. Truth: Although many arts can depict vampires and death, even Satanist do not stand for evil or harm to others. Some goths could be satanic, but goth has no real links between satanism. Most goths are secular, but some are religious. Myth: Goths have tattoos and piercings from head to toe. Truth: Some have them, some don't. Myth: Goths are sad Truth: Not all of them, sure goth emphasizes the darker things in life, but not all of them are sad people, normal people can be sad, sadness is an emotion, emotions make you human. And goths are human. Myth: Goth is nothing but a clique. Truth: This is apart of the "morphing and warping". Goth was never centered around excluding others or trying to be different. Like many counter-cultures, its about being yourself and doing what you like, yet has similar interest and beliefs. Being goth isn't pidgeon holing yourself. Pidgeon holing is when you take someone's belief and claim it as your own. In the mainstream Even though goth isn't mainstream, there are some mainstream things that are gothic. Mainstream Things Movies: The Crow, Queen of the Damned, Interview with a Vampire Books: The Vampire Chronicles Music: The Cure Goth Tribes Although there are no "rules" in goth that someone must follow, there are a particular scene. Victorian Goth AKA Romantigoth: Goths with a touch of victorian age in their life such as dress shirts, capes, cloaks. Interest: Renaissance, Medieval age, Paganism, Occult, Mallgoth: Probably the biggest uproot in the mainstream, but not goth even though mostly judged as goth. Without judgment on the individuals personality, a mallgoth is someone who has no knowledge of goth history, and labels bands like Marilyn Manson and Slipknot as goth, and shops at hot topic. Usually in the teen era. Interest: Hot topic, metal, alternative rock, Cyber Goth AKA Rivethead: A mix between cyber culture with goth elements and appearence. Usually baggy pants and neon with cyber like hair. Has more of an interest in EBM and Industrial Bands. Interest: Dancing, cyber culture, technology Fetish Goth: A goth with an interest in bongage and takes BDSM fashion and lifestyle. Interest: Bondage, PVC, fetish material. Deathrocker: A goth with an interest in deathrock, horror punk and psychobilly music. Fashion wise fishnet and torn dark clothing with combat boots. Interest: Deathrock, Psychobilly, DIY fashion. Elder Goth: A goth who has been around since goth creation or a goth over 40. Vampire Goth: I'M A VAMPIRE\!\!\! LOL Goth-Related Terms and People The Batcave: A club in England where goths have met since its creation Columbine: A violent shooting that presented the first so called "goth violence" (NOTE: shooters were not goths) Rozz Williams: The frontman of Christian Death, who founded american goth, and founded the Deathrock genre. Siouxsie Sioux: The godmother of Goth, one of the first post-punk/goth bands that influenced bands later on. Dinah Cancer: The frontwoman of 45 Grave, one of the first deathrock bands. "The Queen of Deathrock" Bela Lugosi: Not a goth, but played and had a cult following in his horror movies, even after death. Personality: There is no "rule" of personality, but most goths are open minded, witty, anti-prejudice, deep, quiet and artistic. Don't judge a group based on one person's action, were all different, but similar sometimes. Conclusion. Goth is a culture that emphasizes the darker, deeper and romantic sides of life that strays away from the mainstream and pays attention to individuality.

Goth: Hi Person: Hi Goth: I'm doing good. Person: Lets have fun Goth: Ok\! :]

41. (Goth) (17↑, 2↓)
ahh, the ever-popular definition on this site... I have to say, being a goth myself, this feels a bit weird, but I'm not going to describe myself or posers, or anything like that. My definition in itsself is neutral. It doesn't mean that I am neutral, but still. Ok, here goes... Goth is a culture. despite what many people think, it is NOT a mindset, NOR is it a style. It is mostly a very accepting culture, taking in those who don't fit in with everyone else and putting them in with people who will sympathize. Just like in any other culture, there are many variants, but it takes a certain WILL to be goth. If someone says that they are not goth, then they're NOT\!\!\! There is also NO such thing as posers. But just calling yourself to be goth just to be cool under falsehood is damaging the culture's image as a whole, not that anybody in it cares, because we usually don't. But just because you call yourself goth and listen to a certain type of music doesn't make you a poser automatically. Goths can listen to any kind of music that they want. It's a culture of acceptance, internal expression, deepening, and also peace. They should not be made fun of, either. There are fat goths, skinny goths, suicidal goths, normal goths, stupid goths, inteligent goths, artistic goths, and many others just like in the rest of society. There is no one true definition for this urban word, because no two are exactly alike. There are certain groups sure, but some of them are definitly conformist, just like in any other group. Like the people who say that you have to wear something black all the time, listen to certain music, or hang out with other goths to be goths. In the rural town that I live in, there is NOBODY else in my school that is goth. I'm not goth because I want to be different, but simply because I enjoy being under the VERY wide umbrella of this newly-formed culture because I feel that my ideas have a lot to do with it, and I also take a darker outlook on life. I also think that the music that I listen to and the clothes that I wear are absolutely more beautiful than any thing else that I could wear. I don't care if people tell me that I'm damaging society or make fun of me, because I'm coming as myself and not with a mask on. Figuratively, lol.

The goth culture is slowly infiltrating every corner of the world... BUAHAHAHA\!\!\!\!\!\! don't worry, it's a silly thing...

Author: MasqueradeGoth http://goth.urbanup.com/3537686
42. (Goth) (25↑, 10↓)
Goth isnt... Slipknot wearing black every day trying to be scary and intimidating ICP Green Day black eyeliner punk music baggy pants with chains Being evil black lipstick SI Marilyn Manson devil worship being depressed pale white foundation rugs and alcohol hating life heavy metal Hot Topic Mudvayne blood guts and gore emo Goth isnt about how black your clothes are, how many piercings you have, how crappy you can make your eyeliner look, being tough and intimidating, acting or being depressed, listening to mainstream metal or punk, or even acting elite and better than everyone just because you know who Bauhaus is. MUSIC: The Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Fields of the Nephilim, The Mission, All About Eve, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, London After Midnight, (some) Siouxsie and the Banshees, Faces of Sarah, Inkubus Sukkubus, Merry Thoughts, Manuskript, Clan of Xymox, Midnight Configuration, Suspiria, Ausgang, Danielle Dax, Carcrash International, Specimen, Mephisto Walz, Rozz Williams, March Violets, The Creatures, the Birthday Party, Black Tape For A Blue Girl, Die Laughing, Death in June, X-Mal Deutschland, Lene Lovich, Nina Hagen, And Also the Trees, Batfish Boys, In the Nursery, Ipso Facto, Flesh for Lulu, Ordo Equium Solis, Rossetta Stone, Tones on Tail, This Mortal Coil, Killing Joke, Current '93, Dead Can Dance, The Machine in the Garden, Gene Loves Jezebel, Véronique Diabolique, The Cure, Joy Division, Cinema Strange, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, Coil, Cocteau Twins, The Damned, The Tear Garden, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Cruxshadows, The Pixies, Legendary Pink Dots, Moev, Love and Rockets, Ministry, Sleeping Dogs Wake, The Church, and The Cassandra Complex. Despite the fact that outward appearance does not constitute gothness, many people within the subculture do choose to dress a particular way. Its not usually a matter of conformity, but for aesthetics. For instance, while its tacky to wear white foundation, people within the subculture often seem to find natural paleness more attractive than a tan for whatever reason. Its more aesthetically pleasing, therefore a goth who tends not to venture into the sun without protection may not be doing that to seem overtly goth, but only because pale skin makes them feel more beautiful. The same goes for style. The gothic "uniform" varies from person to person, for those who choose to wear it. (Its definitely not required.) In fact, its not even a uniform, since creativity, innovation, and style are embraced. Goth style isnt the black t-shirt and baggy pants that the Hot Topic generation would have you believe. Thats not very creative or unique at all. Nor is it aethetically pleasing. Also, black is NOT a must. Other commonly worn color are emeralds, navys, purples, crimsons, and even white and cream. Various types of materials besides common cotton and polyester are often incorporated into style too. Crushed velvet is popular, along with leather, pvc, lace, rubber, latex, and silk. Bondage fashion is worn by a few, and that doesnt mean wearing Hot Topic pants with those stupid bondage straps in the back. Corsets are a gothic staple for ladies and men. In many instances, Victorian and Edwardian fashions are adopted and modified to unique styles as well. Gothic style is style. Its about looking good, well dressed, made up, gorgeous. For those who choose to don the goth apparel, throwing on Manson t-shirt and some black lipstick isnt going to cut it. Recently, goth fashion has evolved into something more inspired by other genres like electronica, ebm, darkwave, and industrial as well as goth. Its not always the classic velvet and lace look. Please do not use certain internet sites to further perpetuate ignorance. Just because a site has the word goth in the URL or somewhere on the page doesnt mean its the ultimate master on all things goth. For every decent website giving good, informed info, there are 10 more passing off stereotypes and nonsense to whoever wants to listen. Use common sense. Find out whats up from people who actually know whats up. You wouldnt ask a preschooler their thoughts on cognitive neuroscience, would you?

"I'm so goth, me. Now lookit my I-pod with all my Cradle of Filth mush" "I'm SUiCiDaL sO i MuSt Be A gOtH rIgHt?"

Author: DeadCanDanceDemon http://goth.urbanup.com/3462419
43. (goth) (33↑, 19↓)
I have already written a defintion of this term but I would like to add something. Someone had mentioned the book "What Is Goth?" By Voltaire. Yes, I highly recommend this book and that is where one of the definitions I had mentioned came from was this book. I said goth is whatever you wish it to be, or something along those lines. What I meant was it's "whatever you want it to be." as Voltaire states at the end of his book. Couldn't have defined the word better.

A goth is generally a person who listens to gothic music. But there is A LOT to goth and it's not just limited to that.

Author: Lauren Batty http://goth.urbanup.com/1771622
44. (goth) (39↑, 25↓)
simply, what you want it to be.

see the book 'What Is Goth' by Voltaire.

45. (goth) (22↑, 9↓)
1. stereotypical belief: wears black clothing and dark make up, listens to heavy rock and metal. is depressed and worships satan. talks about suicide and [self harms]. writes deep and dark poetry to make people think their cool and dark. the truth: goths arent always deppressed and suicidal, this can be applied to any click, chavs, townies etc can be just as depressed and suicidal as the stereotypical goth. most are fun loving, and arent worried about what other people think. they will do and listen, like and dislike anything they want and arent worried about the latest fashions and trends. they wont 'go after' people just because they feel like it, they'll take a beating from a group of chav's, without backing out to find their 'posse'. 2. an east german tribe who left Scandinavia to settle in poland. In the 3rd and 4th centuries, they terrorised the Roman Empire and adopted Arianism. they divided into [visigoths] and [ostrogoths]

(for \#1) chav: theres a goth lets go deck him innit son\! goth: hey, why? what'd i do to you? chav: you dissen me bruv? goth: erm..what? (goth's friends appear from the shadows) goths friends: problem? chavs: nah, nah blood, is all good innit. * runs away in terror *

46. (Goth) (14↑, 2↓)
You are NOT Goth Just Because You Wear Black You Are NOT Goth Just Because You Like Horror Movies You Are NOT Goth Just Because You Are Depressed You Are NOT Goth Just Because You Think It Looks Neat You Are NOT Goth Just Because You Listen To Metal (which isn't real goth music by the way) You Are NOT Goth Just Because You Like Blood You Are NOT Goth Because You "cut yourself" You Are NOT Goth Because You Wear Tripp Jeans You Are NOT Goth Because "love " Hot Topic A True Goth isn't defined by their look but by their music. I am going to try to put this into my own words as much as possible because I am tired of "trendy teens" Calling themselves goth and giving us a bad name. Lets start at the early goth first. The Gothic Romanticism. Gothic was a type of architecture as i;m sure most of you are well aware. The ruins of the Gothic architecture became to symbolize the inevitable decay and collapse of human creations. This is where Gothic Literature stemmed from. The writings were meant to produce the same feel of emotions as the Gothic architecture for lack of better word. Think of Edgar Allan Poe and how his writing mostly stood for the collapse of the human psyche. See where this ties together? This is where the Victorian Goth style also comes from. Now Fast forward a few hundred years to the most recent and well know revival of goth in the 70's. First Generation Goth- 1979-1985 this derived from post-punk with the most influential bands of this time being Siouxsie and the Banshees, Christian Death, Bauhaus, and sisters of mercy. These are just a few of the many bands where goth music has derived from. If the music doesn't have some kind of resemblance to this kind of music it is NOT goth. Metal is NOT goth. I love metal but please don't confuse it with goth. So all you COF fans out there..hate to tell you this but they aren't goth. They are Black Metal and Marilyn Manson? Nope. He is just EBM. Nothing more and nothing less. Now Second Generation goth- 1985-1995 By now the post-punk era was starting to give way to some newer music styles such as the blending of industrial with Gothic themes as seen in such bands like Skinny Puppy and Depeche Mode. Now Here We are. Third Generation 1995-present The Gothic aesthetic has become popular due to bands such as HIM, Marilyn Manson, Within Temptation, whose music is nowhere near being Gothic but because of their looks they have become associated with that genre much to the chagrin of true goths everywhere. Hot topic also helped to make this culture mainstream and breeding mall goths who probably have never even heard of Siouxsie Sioux. In order to be a "true goth" you have to love true Gothic music. And it should be a good majority of what you listen too. Liking one song by switchblade symphony and then listening to nothing but nightwish and within temptation won't make you a goth, no mater how much make-up or hair gel you are wearing. So please learn about a culture before you try to embrace it and end up embarrassing yourself and others. And try listening to some old school Goth/Punk Siouxise and the Banshees, and the Cure are always good start.

Person 1-What are your favorite goth bands? Person 2-I like Christian Death, Suspiria, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, and Lamb Of God Is pretty kick ass too. Person 1-Awesome.

Author: RubyBloodDrop http://goth.urbanup.com/3414382
47. (goth) (34↑, 22↓)
The term originates from a Neo-Classicist during the 1800's, comparing the Romantics to the Goths of old who sacked Rome. The term stuck, though it has been warped over the ages. Nowadays it is a sub-culture that emphasizes the dark, spooky and cynical. The heavy, sorrowful themes stem from the Romantic Movement's emphasis on emotion, drama, and the human condition. This includes the color black, vampires, and the works of Edgar Allen Poe.

So those oh-so-witty definitions of goth as a few Germanic tribes are tragically,tragically right. Premise-Conclusion

Author: Galen Deepinglen http://goth.urbanup.com/993021
48. (Goth) (10↑, 0↓)
State of mind, with no regret of being ones own person. One who doesn't strive to be a clone of everyone else. Someone with there own mind set, not willing to change a belief because of anyone but themselves. They don't go out of there way to become someones friend but is a good one if u know one. Not always the nicest, can become pissed off very easily if annoyed but an ignorant asshole. Foamy-"Goth is not a fashion statement just like punk."

Person 1-"Dude that kid is Goth." Person 2-"No that kid is emo, Goths can't just go buy a couple things at Hot Topic and be a Goth." Person 1-"Oh yeah, well that make sense."

49. (Goth) (24↑, 14↓)
A style of clothing and music. That's it.

I honestly wish that I could write an 'elaborate rant' on the "true meaning" of the gothic subculture, but I can't because there IS no true meaning.

Author: Pragmatic Realist http://goth.urbanup.com/2609416
50. (goth) (31↑, 21↓)
A goth is a fan of gothic music. Gothic music came about in the early 1980's with bands like The Cure, Bauhaus, and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Gothic music has evolved so much today as there are many different types of it. Anyone can be goth and not even dress the part. For example, a person wearing a pair of blue jeans and a flannel shirt can be goth. If you listen to gothic music, you're goth. It's as simple as that. However, there is actually a lot to goth and even many different types of goths ie: [perkygoth], [romantigoth], [deathrocker], [rivet-head], [ethergoth], [cybergoth], etc. While I say that a goth is a fan of gothic music which is generally true, it is also many things. That is why we have so many different permutations of goth because there really is NO ONE TRUE definition of it. Someone is drawn to goth for one reason or another, takes it into their own hands and adds their own spin on it, making the subgenres of goth that I already mentioned above and the list goes on and on. Goth is basically anything you wish it to be. However, I think before one calls themselves goth, they should at least be familiar with the music. As for the stereotypes, they are not true. Goths are not suicidal, they are not depressed, they are not satan worshippers, they do not cut themselves, and they do not have to wear black constantly. Besides, ANYONE can be depressed. Yes, there are goths that are depressed no doubt, but there are also many "mundane" as they are called in the scene, or "normal" people who are depressed as well. I'm sure however, that unforturnately, there are goths who do fit the other stereotypes but all goths should not be stereotyped\!

I already listed examples above: a fan of gothic music generally makes a goth. A goth does not have to dress the part as well as a goth certainly doesn't have to wear strictly black all of the time. It really depends on what an individual chooses to wear and it would probably be, whatever they're comfortable in.

Author: Lauren Batty http://goth.urbanup.com/1770101
51. (Goth) (25↑, 15↓)
The word Goth has many different meanings to many people, but a simple definition is this: Someone who enjoys a darker perspective on life. Goths tend to be intellectual, philosophical, and romantic. They find beauty in even the ugliest things, and are often attracted to things such as death, morbidity, vampirism, and other such subjects. A true Goth never intends to be Goth, they just are. People who suddenly decide to "become goth" because of their peers are not really Gothic. Also, I'd like to clear the misconception of "Goths being Violent,Anti-Social, or IE Columbine". Real Goths are passive, quiet, and gentle. They are never violent at others, and if a goth "does" pick fights, then that person is not for real.

Some good goth bands to listen to are: L'ame Immortelle, Nightwish, Leave's Eyes, Bauhaus, and Switchblade Symphony. These people ARE NOT goth: Marylin Manson, Limp Bizkit, ICP (Who in heck thought ICP was goth? Their just, um, Mentally Retarded)and no, My Chemical Romance is not a goth band.

52. (goth) (19↑, 10↓)
ORIGINAL: the two germanic tribes that sacked and ultimately rought the downfall of the roman empire. (ostrogoths, visigoths, vandals) ALTERNATIVE: goth people are the ones who would attend "dracula's ball" in philladelphia. They usually dress in dark colors, not because they are evil or antagonists, but because they like the color. Goth people don't HAVE to do anything, meaning they could do anything out of the blue. they are not attention-whores, but act on their will which causes people to stare. Also, goth people are almost always an artist of one form or another (ie, paiting or peotry...)

goth1: time to go to school goth2: alright *at school* prep: like, omigah\! they're so evil\!\! prep-followers: I love you, have my liver\! -------- goth: hi prep: get away from me before you call satan on me

53. (goth) (27↑, 18↓)
Fan of 80's post-punk music known as gothic rock.

Goth: Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, some of The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, Switchblade Symphony, London After Midnight, The 69 Eyes, Type O Negative, Christian Death Not Goth: Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, HIM, Slipknot, Korn, Linkin Park, Green Day, Fall Out Boy

54. (goth) (21↑, 12↓)
1. A persom whom embraces the macarbeness of life 2. (singular) A person from a pre history tribe of Germans 3. A style of architecture PS: i would just like to say, Marylin manson is not goth but shock rock, or industrial, one of those. but any who his musics still good, and you gotta love that make up :)

John: hello steve i see that you are in some form enbracing the macarbness of life. steve: yes indeed john: by definition you would be performing a gothic act, but not necisarly making you a goth. steve: indeed John: lets go burn some heretics\! steve: bahahaha burn the heretics\!

55. (goth) (22↑, 13↓)
An especially gloomy offshoot of the punk movement, slowing down and adding keyboards and more danceable drumming. Although primarily an 80's movement as music, the fashion sense has frequently been ripped off by young metal fans and artists (ala. marilyn Manson, Korn, etc.) creating a new subculture calling themselves goths. fairly large remnant goth scene continues to thrive among slightly older individuals in clubs and cities around the globe.

Sisters of mercy, The Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Fields of the Nephilim

56. (goth) (8↑, 0↓)
I don't know anymore. There are so many definitions of goth nowdays, especially music. For example: There's classic goth music, like the Sisters Of Mercy (including the greatest 80's pop song ever made, This Corrosion) and Bauhaus. There's Victorian-style goth, but that's rare. The only good example I can think of is Rasputina. (Their song "Transylvanian Concubine" was on a Buffy soundtrack.) There's electrogoth, like Switchblade Symphony and Faith and The Muse. After this, things get fuzzy. Symphonic metal, like Within Temptation and Lacuna Coil, is sometimes considered gothic metal. Industrial music, like Nine Inch Nails, occcasionally mixes with gothic music. Electrogoth and electropop sometimes overlap, an example being Ladytron and Depeche Mode. There's pagan rock, like Inkubus Sukkubus, but the only reason that has a gothic following is because many goths follow a Pagan or Wiccan path. In conclusion, no one knows what goth is anymore, because it's forked so many times. However, it is agreeded upon that Marilyn Manson is not goth.

"What is gothic music?" "I...just don't know anymore."

Author: My name\! MINE\! http://goth.urbanup.com/2599493
57. (goth) (21↑, 13↓)
While many think of goths as bloodsucking vampiric satanists, very little of that is true. It's not just about gobs of eyeliner and white face paint. It's about being who we ARE. I am a goth. I am proud to be one. I don't think it matters if I dress in all black, because I'm nicer to ANYBODY than any chav could ever be? Why? Simple. Golden Rule. Too bad ignorant chavs and self centered preps have failed to realize that. And no, listening to Marilyn Manson will not make you 'goth'. Nor will he 'un-goth' you. Same with any band. I myself listen to bands like Crossfade and Disturbed, but then I also listen to heavier things like Metallica and Dragonforce. But it's not just music. It's how you are. And who you are. So before you pathetic chav's go to pick on that 'freak' think about this. Who's more pathetic? The kid in black or you, going to pick on him because your self esteem is too low and your ego too big. Not to mention your pants don't stay up.

Chav:look at that goth what a loserrrrr Chav2:i know right? let's go make fun of that weirdo Chav1:what are you, goth, a VAMPIRE? Goth:uh no? Chav2: he is definitely a vampire dude. Goth:go away, your arrogance and ignorance combined are enough to bring the armageddon. Chav1: dude this guy makes NO sense

Author: Darkshadow7965156 http://goth.urbanup.com/2269900
58. (Goth) (18↑, 10↓)
1. A member of a Germanic people who invaded the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era. 2. (a) A style of rock music that often evokes bleak, lugubrious imagery. (b) A performer or follower of this style of music. 3. An invdividual who either enjoys the darker interests and enjoyments of life or is captivated by those who do. These individuals are artistic, intelligent, curious, and often surprising when it comes to such things as careers or pasttimes. In fact, the only reason that they come off "scary" or "creepy" at all is because society shuns and fears what they do not understand. Most 'goths' interviewed simply stated that the reason they have such a low-down attitude and enjoy creeping people out is because they've been outcasted. Indeed, hundreds of teens/young adults enter such a lifestyle because they were shunned, misunderstood, hated, kicked around, or even just misplaced, meaning they couldn't fit in any other stereotype. 4. Just another all-American title for better labeling and little understanding... Typical humans not thinking.

1. The young woman from Rome was tortured and beheaded by the Goths. 2. "What's her favorite music?" "Oh... Death Metal, hard rock... all that goth stuff." 3. "You're gothic?" "No... I'm Bill." 4. "Look at those goths around the street... they're as bad as punks\!"

59. (goth) (24↑, 16↓)
A person isnt classfified a goth just because of piercings or because of wearing black clothing, but that is the typical stereotype. You wear Black and you're automaticlaly said to be gothic, well, do people look like architecture to others? Its the realistic outlook on life. You've had a reality check, realized that everyone is slowly dying each day. Realized, you may have it better then others, realized that the world isnt all happy skippy as people make it out to be. You realize Death could happen at any time, that there is something more out there then what you know. Gothic people have a deep sense of lyrical poetry and ability to write, using experience and life to feed off of to write, not all goths are suicidal, depressive and cutt. Goths are almost always there for others, and make close friends, and stand by them with any of their desisions. They wish to prove that you dont have to be popular and fit in. That you are your own person, that you shouldnt have to conform to what everyone else does. the music and cloths are frequent, but you can wear pink and listen to pop music and still be gothic for your looks on life and your outlook of everything else. Most are well read, and intellectual, easy to talk to using slight slang. No one's perfect, but they are most gramatically correct having studied deep into literature and theatre.

No example

Author: mortaliscaedes http://goth.urbanup.com/476400
60. (Goth) (14↑, 7↓)
To many people, Goths are : unhappy people, wanting to kill themselves, and listen to ' goth ' music.. But to me they are : Happy people trying to have fun, not wanting to kill themselves and listen to GOOD music. \<3 Goths \<3

Omg look at that goth\! he is unhappy and wants to kill himself\! he loves Satan\!\! - Normal Person That Goths cool ;) \<3 much love \<3 - Normal'er person :P

Author: \<3 Goths \<3 http://goth.urbanup.com/2588442
61. (Goth) (12↑, 5↓)
Let me state a few facts first, beginning with self-experience. I've started developing into the whole goth lifestyle back in late '04, starting out by wearing black. I wasn't into the whole Marilyn Manson or Linkin Park bullshit at that time, because I knew they weren't goth bands. After the whole black clothings, I started getting into goth rock(ex: Bauhaus, Lacuna Coil, Moonspell, HIM, The 69 Eyes). Then afterwards, other sets of metal was what I started listening to as well(excluding Nu-Metal). At first, I thought that I was never going to change my image. But that obviously wasn't true. However, the goths of what I saw, were different from the goths of today. The goths back then were there to live life on the "darker" sides of things, meaning that they would abolish of whatever that is related to the mainstream. Those who were different. Those who were unique. Those who had their own style in clothings, words, and what not. The whole "goth" scene developed from a germanic/barbaric tribe that invaded the Roman Empire. The first kind of goths were known as the "visigoths", or aka The Noble Ones. They sacked the Roman Empire, otherwise known as the "mainstream" of that time.. so I'm pretty sure you can compare that to the gothic scene of my time. Then suddenly, the whole goth scene started to evolve ONCE again. Kids are now transforming the scene into a trend, buying merchandise after merchandise, giving the impression as if they're buying candy from a store. They worship sellout stores such as hot topic, and claim to be "different".. but yet, they all dress the same, act the same, have the same desire of wanting to be "different", and considering themselves "rebellious teens". The thing is, these morons don't know that shit such as Hot Topic or MTV are nothing but a bunch of sellout brainwashing companies. Why do you think they charge such a ridiculous and pointless amount of money for merchandise? It's simple. They're trying to make money by selling out merchandises. And these "rebelious" goths are following them. So basically, if you really want to be unique, different, rebellious, or what not.. the only thing you would really need to do is to be yourself, because that's one of the unique traits that most people don't possess nowadays. Do I still listen to goth rock? Of course. Do I still listen to black/death/thrash/speed metal? Definitely. Do I still dress in black? Yes, more than often. Do I go around acting rebellious by wearing eyeliner and painting my nails black, and prancing around graveyards and worship Marilyn Manson for a living? FUCK NO.

retarded teen angst goth kid: dude... I'm like... so different from those Britney Spears loving conformists.... and I hate society... and that makes me rebellious and different... me: no dude, hating society doesn't make you a "rebel", it makes you a douche bag. RTAGK: well you're just a dumb conformist, that's all. try living in my shoes, then you'll see how much I have to suffer. me: go shove a tube down your throat, pour oil on the tip, and flare a matchstick and light it on fire, you goth-cut-yourself-kid. why don't you try living in a third world country, then you'll understand the true meaning of "suffer". Just knowing your presence disgusts me, you imbred cunt.

Author: hatchetwarrior4life http://goth.urbanup.com/2159178
62. (goth) (15↑, 8↓)
I now find is less of a fasion but a word used by chavs to describe any one who wears any kind of alternate clothing \!

look at him what a goth

63. (goth) (19↑, 12↓)
1) a subculture grouping usually classified by non-goths as anybody who is depressed and wears black. that's not the half of it. goths range widely in mentality and appearance. some of them are very depressed, wear black, and link about suicide. some others can be happy and fun, but simply have pessimistic tendancies and a dark, sarcastic sense of humor. many goths in middle school and high school were nerds in elementary school. many goths are quite smart and creative, liking to write and draw. goths prefer to be alone or with people like them, and can't stand most "normal" people. they tend to be quiet and reluctant to draw attention to themselves, even shy at times, but inside they can be affectionate and even sweet if they're in the right mood. they don't care about what people think of them, it's how they think of themselves that matters to them. if a goth gets a haircut and nobody likes it, he/she doesn't care as long as he/she likes it. goths tend to be inquisitived to a point that they offend other people with questions regarding religion. can be quite defensive of their opinions. sometimes stubborn. doesn't like to make friends. if you want to be friends with a goth (hypothetical situation), you have to go slow, be content to just be aqquaintances for a while until the goth gets confortable around you, as goths don't like to socialize too often. GOTHS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM MARYLIN MANSON\! 2)goths are often very reluctant to share opinions and ideas or anything they've written or drawn, but if approached the right (or wrong, depending on your outlook) way, they can be somewhat crude and in-your-face. goth is actually short for gothic, coming from several tribes in europe around the time of the roman empire (some of them actually caused the fall of it)

1) Maria's father died, and ever since she has been goth. 2) The Visigoths invaded the northern roman empire in it's last days, about the same time as the vikings.

64. (goth) (19↑, 12↓)
--The words Goth and Gothic have had many, largely unrelated meanings: the name of the Germanic Visigoth tribes that overthrew the Roman Empire. From this source arose the concept of a Goth as an uncivilized person, a barbarian. 4 --a style of architecture in Western Europe which was popular from the 12th to the 16th century. --a style of horror/mystery literature that is dark, eerie and gloomy. --Goth, as a modern movement, started as one component of the punk rock scene. As the latter faded, Goth survived by creating its own subculture. --The first use of the term Goth in its present meaning was on a British Broadcasting Commission (BBC) TV program. Anthony H. Wilson, manager of Joy Division described the band as Gothic compared with the pop mainstream. The name stuck. --Their use of black clothing was originally "something of a backlash to the colorful disco music of the seventies." 5 It also stuck. --The movement first became established in the Batcave, a nightclub in London, England, in the early 1980's. 3 --Spreading to the U.S., it first became popular in California. --Goth is featured in The Crow horror movies (1994, 1996). Other Gothic movies are the original Nosferatu, the color remake Nosferatu the Vampyre, and the Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. --Popular music bands are the Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Sisters of Mercy, Dead Can Dance, and many others. ***Stereotypes: People have accused or described Goths as being: Depressed, Unusually bigoted, Violent, Suicidal, Involved in illegal drugs, Vampires or believe themselves to be vampires, Sado-masochists, Satanists, Musicians, painters, and other artists, Computer programmers (although there seem to be a lot of them) Wearers of black (some wear white and gunmetal), Dyers of their hair, Users of white makeup. 4

I like the clothing of the visigoths, and the osogoths, in the 13th century, but not when they changed in the 15th.

Author: trustXfriends http://goth.urbanup.com/1415044
65. (goth) (8↑, 2↓)
There are two kinds of goth: 1) Usually a very creative and philosophical person. They are fairly intelligent, listen to many kinds of music although it is rarely packaged, plastic pop. If they do then it is because they want to rather than due to a need to fit in. These people are themselves, they are real. Not all of them are Satanists, they are not suicidal, murderous, or even scary as long as you don't fear what is different. They can be fun and happy and aren't ashamed to laugh at themselves. Goths do not appreciate being labeled. They usually wear a good amount of black, but have their own unique styles and wear color sometimes. They often have a dark disposition. Some people call me a goth, but I just consider myself different :) 2) Someone who just wants to rebel, or thinks that being goth is cool. They listen to bands like Slipknot and Korn, thinking that they are "soooo hardcore n' goffik". No offence to Marilyn Manson, but many of these posers will listen to him too. They are over emotional and whiny and just miss the entire idea of what a goth really is.

Real Goth: Hey man, how is it going? Fake Goth: The world is crying and I want to kill myself and skin my family\!\! And I'm just so goth\! So gothic I could just hang myself\!\!\! RG: *Looks around uncomfortably* well... don't do that... there is too much to live for... hey, maybe you should see a school counselor or something. FG: No\! They don't understand me, no one does\! Only Fred Durst\! Only he\! *Charges away to bathroom* RG: Poor guy. Wait, Fred Durst? What the?\! Sigh. *goes back to reading poetry and hanging out with friends* Note: I had no intentions of making fun of suicidal people, having been in that state myself a few years ago. I merely wanted to mock the fake goths who act suicidal for attention.

Author: frootloopsaretastey http://goth.urbanup.com/4038564
66. (goth) (13↑, 7↓)
A very unique, though generally dark, style that should not be labeled by rights. However, society loves to label goth as a general term for people who wear: a lot of black, seem withdrawn a lot in public, wear heavy metal shirts, wear dark make-up, and are actually talented at subjects on the creative side, like writing. It's not about how many chains one can wear, it's about overall thought, acceptance, and certain tastes. For example, you can't be seen as gothic walking around in a polo from American Eagle. But, the limits of dark colored clothing and "dark" accesories range in variety and it's up to the individual. KEYWORD: Inidivdual Gothic music ranges in genres like darkwave, industrial, trance, techo, electronica, heavy metal, alternative rock, and so on and so forth. The music is generally solemn sounding, in some way, and very creative. The places to easily find "gothic" clothing would be Hot Topic or Spencer's. Also, check out local thrift stores or online sites. Above all, it's about being yourself and living outside that margin so many people feel almost too comfortable within. "Goths" are not mean.

Stuck up person: Look at them, they wear a lot of black and look depressed, so they must worship Satan along with that creepy Marilyn Manson dude. Wow, let's stay away from those scary freaks. They're goth

Author: BleedingTorment http://goth.urbanup.com/2036053
67. (Goth) (24↑, 18↓)
Used to describe a form of art or the genre of music that portrays the darker aspects of the world, usually with imagery. Also used to describe fans of this genre. Unlike conventional punk and metal, gothic music usually has vocals which flow steadily. Most do not make direct reference to death but rather describe the beauty and elegance of things decaying, twisted and dark. Some gothic bands may make anti-christian themes but the lack of such anti-religious themes do not define goth.

The gargoyle stautes of the ancient Roman cities. Popular artists and bands of goth music include "the cure" and "evanesence"...

68. (goth) (6↑, 1↓)
goth. what is . it . to be goth...? cemetery black with grey accesories? A loathing to live and be alive; ourself not understanding others ? Cliches are just that. Do I drive a hearse, with...blackwall tires..? and make my own absinthe? Or am I an artist, musician, poet whom cares not for an..y.thing save for whatever be the moments spur? As popeye said I yam what i yam..leave me alone to do and think as I will. I am the subculture of a subculture that prescribes and doesn't subscribe to any..thing most do. I am myself on my own path, as it were, in life. Do I wear clothing of a year born one two three or, damn it all...TEN years popular before my birth?\! Nunya bizzness nor excitement of any form, for I am all that is dark and pretentious and forlourn. I am of an age that didn't exist, I am gen X. i AM TRYING TO FORGIVE THOSE WHOM HURT ME SO in my own way. By the way I would appreciate it for you to leave me alone. leave me alone with this, this instrumentally foreshadowing debacle of selfrighteousness\! The arrogant and insignificant self-virtue I claim 'tis my own 'an none other. So I ask "what is goth?" It is not what many think, but in fact it. is. me . . . me alone. me with another ...and me by myself, in my own self prescribed affidavit for normality or non to distinguish and yet set closer to the rest of society.

N/A ...goth; an uncouth or rude person; comparable to pagan in reference to olde dictionaries, one whom is unlearned or non-conformist/non-christian

Author: a blank expression http://goth.urbanup.com/3894163
69. (goth) (11↑, 6↓)
people who burn down, burn down Hot Topic

Burn burn burn down Hot Topic dont let it take your soul... store owner-hey what the hell are you doing?\! goth-you should probably get out of here

70. (Goth) (9↑, 4↓)
*Very long and detailed post, covered all facts of the modern goth sub-culture* After the demise of the pioneering goths such as [Bauhaus] listeners, the social niche called "goth" has MANY different definitions and misconceptions used throughout different age groups, social standing, location, etc. The common misconceptions in the United States (could be similar in other countries, but seeing as I haven't lived anywhere else I can't comment for sure) about "goths" is that they dress in all black, sulk constantly, and only think about death, suicide, religion, and the cliché... [vampires], these people are NOT goth. They are adolescent punks that think that if they act all depressed they'll get the attention they thrive on. True goths that are the way they are because it is their true personality and think about topics like death and the struggle that a [vampire] living among humans would experience if they existed in modern times because they instill deep thought. Discussing topics like this are more than a way to pass the time, they're a way for many modern goths to think deeply and candidly about where they stand in the world, and if they are being true to what they believe in without changing their unique personality for the sake of others. Most gothic people are quite intelligent, if not in a "school" sense then in a "philosophical" sense and though they may have a relatively dark sense of humor or media, it does mean that all goths obsess about the end of someone's time on this earth. When an individual spends a high percentage of their life thinking without distraction, death, religion, and afterlife is a major topic. *THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOTHS ARE SUICIDAL OR DEPRESSED* Many people think that someone who listens to satanic metal and wears [pentagrams] all over as accessories are gothic, while a goth may listen to black metal and other genres like it, listening to it does not make you goth; another misconception that leads many people to group together dozens of sub-cultures into "goth". Goths are most commonly very in touch with their emotions and aren't afraid to express them in whatever way they see fit. This differs from modern [emo] or [hardcore metal] culture because that is comprised of kids that think all they feel is pain and depression followed by a "true love" based upon hormone driven infatuation, a goth will acknowledge all emotion be it happiness, grief, or the very rare but very beautiful love with open arms. Just living their lives free of fear that they may be shunned among their peers for being an intellectual individual is what a true goth will seek in their life. There are constant stories of "goth" high-schoolers taking their own lives because of a dismal outlook that, "no one understands how they feel," because they're too caught up in the moment that they don't acknowledge that the grief will pass and many, many people before them went through the exact same issues. This isn't to disrespect people that have done this, if i knew every-single one of their names I would pay tribute to them regularly because many of them did in fact just need someone to really listen to them instead of just saying, "It's just teenage [angst], you'll calm down soon enough," but know I'm divulging way off topic, this is simply to say that said people are most likely not a true goth and self-labelled themselves as such because that's what they thought goth was. Goths also do not have to wear all black clothes or clothing you don't see commonly to be part of the goth culture like [corsets] for women or tight fitting clothes for effeminate men; though many do, it is not what makes them goth. Many goths listen to all sorts of music (maybe even a couple pop songs with lyrics that are relevant to their lives at the end of a good day) and there are plenty of goths that will wear bright colors and dress in a way that is (relatively) unique to their personality. Many people don't recognize these people as "goth" because of stereotypes that they have grown up with. A true goth will have an open mind to new ideas, music, literature and is all for discussing them regularly with a select group of friends and acquaintances that they associate with not for any sense of belonging or popularity, but because they too have open minds to new ideas and don't judge people on their outer appearance. A popular defining trait of a true goth is that they do not suddenly assosciate with the "[mall goths]" that patrol the neighborhood shopping center dressed completely over the top as to grab attention; these are nothing but immature followers that think that the attention they get when people stare will dressing over the top will make them happy. A true goth will not fret over any popularity or social status and will never change themselves for the sake of being well-liked among their peers; again, this is not to say that goths are total loners, a true goth will enjoy close friends just as much as anyone, they just may have stricter stipulations when choosing to spend time with them. Final misconception I have time to soliloquize, goths are not freaks in any way shape or form, most goths are normal people that just take interest in non-mainstream media and culture, goths are not all establishment-hating anarchists. A true goth will most often refrain from judging someone based on appearance and the clique they assosciate, they have all experienced what its like to be judged by appearance and are not quick to shun someone just because they fall into a different social niche. Final moral to whoever read this entire post, if you aren't already a true goth or have a goth friend, try meeting one by ignoring their appearance and forming opinions about them based solely on your compatibility as friends or just casual acquaintances. I hope this cleared up any misconceptions about the modern goth sub-culture. I'm not saying goths are perfect, or strange, "wacky", angry, or freaks. I am writing this because of all the misunderstanding being thrown around and people getting these stereotyped, dismal impressions of modern gothic culture.

-Fifteen year old girl with scars on her wrists that only wears black every day=Poser -Young man with an "interesting" but not necessarily over the top outfit and haircut of primarily black, white, and some vibrant colors such as blue and purple, and will most like be relatively clean cut (Men may look rather effeminate, which many can take as a positive)=From first glance, most likely a true to his heart modern goth\!

Author: BefriendPersonality_NotAppearance http://goth.urbanup.com/2832413
71. (goth) (9↑, 4↓)
a subculture known for unusual dress and tastes. black is usually the color of choice. there are different kinds of goths. cyber goths are known to wear more futuristic clothes and have multi colored hair (which is oftentimes worn in dreads). romantic goths are the "original". they dress usually in black with dark makeup. goths are known to appreciate the unique genres of music. electronica, new wave, industrial, ebm, and classical being most popular. many are considered to be above normal in intelligence and are often extremely contemplative in nature.

examples of music : depeche mode, new order, the cure, orgy, visage, duran duran, missing persons, combichrist, kmfdm, nine inch nails, bauhaus, joy division (post punk, but ian curtis' dark vocals put the band in a "gothic" category) nick cave and the bad seeds....all examples of true gothic music. examples of clothes : thrift store finds. as stated earlier, oftentimes black. lacey, antique looking gloves and shirts. doc maertens. thigh high black boots. bats, graves, ghosts are common jewelry themes. dark and unusual. i identify myself as goth, so ask me some questions and i will answer to the best of my ability.

72. (goth) (10↑, 5↓)
A label that most people puts on another who wears dark,(preferably black), clothes. Unfortunately, it is a label on someone's exterior and not how they are like. I am not exactly sure how that label came to be, but I suppose every kind of style needs labeling so society can judge everyone by their clothing.

I have to say a few words about this. My whole family started to question me because of what I was wearing. . And my uncle thought I was goth. So, my sadistic uncle got a laptop computer out and looked up the definition of: Emo - A topic that we were talking about when someone thought I was that. Preppy Goth - My mom wants me to be a prep, but she would really rather settle for this. Umm. . No. Goth - Main topic of conversation. I thought I would include that because that is most of the reason why I am defining this, and an example of how lame it is,(I find it a priviledge to have the courage to be different, but it is very difficult when closed minded people such as my family shut you out, give you a hard time,label you, or try to change you), to not wear something from Abercrombie and Fitch or a store that doesn't have the *in* stuff. People tend to over react about them. .

73. (Goth) (13↑, 8↓)
Goth, although once an expression of individuality, is now a commercial image sold by big business. They now have shops such as Emily the Strange that promote and sell the goth image. If you shop at such places you are buying something that everyone can have and probably does have. Ergo, you are not a true goth who wishes to be individual. Goth, as well as many other social groups, is a box that people are put in so we can organise society. People are labelled to make it easier for others to relate to them. I exhibit many chracteristics of a goth (outlook of the world, sense of humour ect,) but am I one? No. This is because I choose not to buy into a commercial image that has been ruined by our "friends" big business and lemming teenagers. So, if we follow this philosiphy, everyone who calls themself a goth is a poser and everyone who dresses like a goth is just buying into a commercial entity and is therefore a sellout and a poser.

Goth: I'm so individual I dress and act just like all my friends because society tells me to.

Author: All the bloody names are taken\! http://goth.urbanup.com/1858956
74. (Goth) (12↑, 7↓)
Gothic culture and style is whatever the perpetrator wants it to be. Every individual has their own interpretation of what is and what is not Gothic. The style is based on a few basic common denominators: black usually being the precursor to the rest. A person who adopts the Gothic style will inevitably place their own mark on what is deemed to be 'Goth', variants in style, poise and demeanour are common among Goth's and no two are ever the same. Goth's as a sub-culture are undeniably the most misunderstood, the stereotypes portrayed by the media and other groups (i.e. the [chav]) are grossly inaccurate and offensive on occasion\! 90% of the Gothic culture revolves around intellect, creativity and differentiation. A usual Goth will try to distance themselves from the 'norm' of society, sometimes to feel different, sometimes for attention (although on a temporary basis) but nine times out of ten it is just because they want to. A Goths' individuality is paramount, we do it because we want to and we do it because it makes us feel happy and secure within our own skin...nothing more.

Individual, creative, insightful, unique to themselves. These are presiding attributes of the Gothic culture.

75. (Goth) (4↑, 0↓)
-----REAL DEFINITION, NOT THAT MALLGOTH STUFF--------- An avid listener of [Goth Rock] and it associated genres, which was a spin-off of a 1970's punk movement that started in a club in the UK called the Batcave. Some example bands are bauhaus, the Sisters of Mercy, Corpus Delicti, All Gone Dead, 1919, 13th Chime ([deathrock]), Screams for Tina (deathrock)

I like bauhaus, am I a Goth yet?

Author: PeterMurphreak http://goth.urbanup.com/4473648
76. (Goth) (6↑, 2↓)
I. A sub-culture established in the 80's, controversy has been brought up about it's origins, believed to be taken from the punk sub-culture and/or a style of architecture used from the 12th to the 16th century. Coming in an array of different music and clothing styles, goths typically share the same basic music range (Typically very loud, and/or dark) and the same "deathly pale" look. Goth is no longer a style and never truly was a trend, now it has developed it's own "sub-cultural" differences in society. Goths typically make their own or fix their own clothing (Called DIY or Do-It-Yourself). This enables them to acquire their own independence as well as stand out and show they're not like "clones". While not all goths shop at thrift stores, most do in fact add their own touches to their styles, whether in make-up, hair, or clothing. Black though a dominant color in the sub-culture is not the only color ever worn, every color of the rainbow and beyond can be found in some form or fashion. Goths are not forced into any form or style to fit "in" the gothic lifestyle. Goth is a creatively dark sense of style, passion, and expression forged from everything from music to literature, to historic events or places. While many are accused of being "poseurs" there is no definite style or attitude defined by those calling themselves "true" goths there for often it is hard to determine a so called "poseur" from a true goth to those not familiar with the gothic sub-culture. Often misunderstood by those not a part of the sub-culture, called everything from satanists to fetishes. Although the sub-culture hasn't been around more than 20 years or so, it is still defined by the "black clad" members of society, stereotypes extending to emos, a branch off of the same roots as goth, forcing goths to be grouped with the stereotype of being suicidal and cutting themselves, while this is not true in both sub-cultures, it is still one of the most commonly used stereotypes today. Other stereotypes and misconceptions include: Witch craft, violence, aggression, vandalism, satanism, homicidal tendencies, necrophilia, vampirism, "strange" fetishes, depression, suicidal tendencies, self harm, cult participation, drug abuse, bad personal hygiene, sexual tendencies, and solitudinous tendencies There are many styles of goth, ranging from the futuristic, neon colored club wear of a cyber goth to the pink and black princess/prince wear of the perkygoth. Styles determine place matting and interests in the gothic society. Whether they wear long flowing black dresses, or skin tight PVC, gothic styles show the interests of a particular person, but there are always stereotypes within stereotypes and all to often the goths themselves stereotype other goths of different fashion sense. Still, all goths are united by music or the same basic outlook on life. Giving in to the thought process of, "The world is not sugar-coated, it has ups and downs, death and life. It can suck and it can be amazing." goths express these feelings by presenting the highs and lows of life in their daily style. Goth styles can be low tone or extreme depending on the person's interests and ability. Not all goths adorn piercings, tattoos, or wear short/ripped clothing. Preferences play a huge roll, many will wear whatever is most comfortable, and others may wear the most uncomfortable article of clothing because they want to make a point. "Styles" Of Goth include: Gothic Lolita, Club Goth, Death Rocker, Rivet Head, Romanti Goth, Victorian Goth, Perkygoth, Gothability, Cyber Goth, Steampunk, Traditional Goth, and Corporate Goth The true difference between each goth is their taste in music, depending on their favorite music, they will display themselves in the same form or fashion of their favorite bands. Death Rockers looking like they've crawled out of hell is a good example of supporting their favorite music with style. II. A Germanic people whose origins lay along the lower Vistula (modern Poland). Known best for ransacking Rome in 410AD. III. A kind of architecture first introduced in the 12th century and used until the 16th century. Buildings usually consisting of large arch doorways, counterbalancing buttresses, large pointed tower structures, and slender piers.

Gothic Sub-Culture: Wave Gothic Treffen, Bat Day (Disneyland) Gothic Architecture: Big Ben, Bran Castle (Castle Dracula), Notre Dame de Paris

77. (goth) (12↑, 8↓)
Goth is first and foremost a person who listens to certain types of music and dresses the part. The music includes deathrock, batcave, certain postpunk, certain non-electronic darkwave and other music that is goth. The person dresses the part by wearing makeup either all black clothes or deathrock-style, which can include colorful mohawks, painted leather jackets, colorful ripped t-shirts and fishnets. Real goths always wear makeup to the club, and often daily, no matter what their gender is, otherwise they look like posers. ----------------------------------- Goth is not merely a person who embraces "the darkness" or "everything dark". Their makeup, style, dance moves and music choices make or not make them goth--don't confuse "goth" with "gothic". "Gothic" can be applied to many different people who aren't goth and denotes a person or trend that borrows from Goth, that is "into things dark" but is not goth. Example would be a person who occasionally listens to goth music (but to a lot of other kinds too), who likes BDSM and goes to all kinds of "dark" clubs, not caring too much what to dance for, basically, looking "goth" only when they go out. Gothic is a dark streak that is not to be confused with real Goth. People who prefer "gothic" music that is not Goth, can be called different ways: darkwavers, rivetheads (who love industrial scene/music), moshers, metalheads, etc. Fetish scene is not to be confused with Goth scene: they have very little in common. Goth has a lot of fetish elements in clothing style and many from fetish crowd attend goth clubs on occasion, but that's where the resemblance ends. "Vampires" aren't Goth either; Goths like to play with vampire theme quite rarely, but those who think they're vampires, who wear white contacts, fangs, or paint blood on their faces aren't Goth at all. -------------------------------------- Goth has a very strong androgyny element: It is common for Goth males to wear traditionally female elements of clothes/makeup to the clubs. Deathrocker Goth females also prefer androgynous styles, and dress hardly any different from deathrocker males. Truly Goth dancing is characterized by original, assymetric and often a-rythmical moves, cat-like stepping, wavy arm movements. Goths never bare too much of their body; if they do, they belong to a different scene, but depending on gender (example would be: girl wearing a bra instead of a top to the club or showing garter and stockings isn't Goth, a guy wearing mini-skirt to the club and showing stockings and garter looks Goth). ------------------------------------- Goth is about extreme individualism, yet, it's about belonging to a group and fitting in, at the same time, paradoxically. Goth is about looking at things, at human nature--and oneself with extreme honesty and accepting what mainstream culture doesn't accept--death, melancholy, decay. Like Mike Mercer had put it Goth is about ultimate dignity. Goth hates the mainstream culture, real Goth doesn't watch television. Goths like to shop in thrift stores or specialized Gothic stores, they also have tendency to make their own clothes and jewelry and be creative about their outfits and makeup. Favorite Goth boots are very pointy ones with buckles, though army-style boots (with include Docs) are also acceptable, as well as platform boots. Layered torn fishnet and sheer tights worn over the arms and legs and Victorian clothes are old time favorites. Modern goths wear more PVC/vinyl clothes than before, which includes tight pants, dresses, corsets and long skirts made of PVC. Black nailpolish is very popular and is worn by males and females, both. -------------------------------------- People who claim that Goth is only about "mindset" and "lifestyle" versus the look aren't goth: real Goth takes great care of their looks and alway strives to look beautiful and goth. Dark beauty is something that is at the core of the Goth--beauty of art, or appearance and of melancholic mind. Each real Goth is an art piece, essentially, as a person is being creative about their look. Of course, those goths who're stuck in only one way and criticize new style developments lose creativity.

Gothic person: "There's a new goth club that plays emb, goth, synthpop, darkwave and industrial\!" Goth: "This is not a goth club"

Author: nosferatu_xx http://goth.urbanup.com/2769130
78. (goth) (14↑, 10↓)
3 Definitions 1) A member of a Germanic tribe who invaded the Roman Empire early in the Christian era 2) A style of music 3) A follower of this music

This is not a goth ----\> Ooooooh my god, life is so depressing and i'm soooo goth 'cos I wear lots of black, and I have a chain on my wallet and I wear eyeliner and listen to Marilyn Manson. Dude, i'm soooo goth

79. (goth) (31↑, 27↓)
a real goth: doesnt care what other people think. poser goth: likes marilyn manson.

poser goth: marilyn manson is so goth\!

80. (goth) (20↑, 16↓)
1. The goth subculture originally evolved in the late '70s and early '80s out of the punk subculture. goth bands: Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Alien Sex Fiend, Specimen 2. There are also sad little teens who listen to metal and consider themselves 'goth', but all they are are metalheads who happen to like the colour black and truly have no knowledge of what the goth scene came from. NON-goth bands: Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, HIM, Marilyn Manson 3. Also non-goth are cybergoths (aka gravers, which is short for goth + raver), although they are sometimes incorrectly labeled goth. But most do tend to realise they are not goth and identify more with the industrial subculture. cybergoth bands: VNV Nation, Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil, Razed in Black

1. The goth backcombed his hair before going out to get more of that 80s' goth look. 2. The teenager shopped at Hot Topic and bought some baggy pants and a Cradle of Filth t-shirt in an attempt to be a "goth". Unfortunately, he failed. 3. The cybergoth had neon green hair extensions and danced to VNV Nation.

Author: gother than thou...j/k http://goth.urbanup.com/1359685
81. (goth) (15↑, 11↓)
Most goths I know do not dress to shock people as most seem to think, but simply because that is what they want to wear. I will also add that most 'GOTHS' dont actaly like nu metal.

Cyber goth= bright clothes, indutrial/ebm/techno music. Goth= black/perple clothes and spikes,music as cyber also darkwave/old 80s goth music. Mosher (not goth) Nu metal, punk

82. (Goth) (17↑, 13↓)
The punk subculture formed in the early 80s. Not to be confused with the Germanic tribes. Creative, intelligent, interesting people who share similar ideas, likes and dislikes. One cannot classify 'goth' in one way...there are many types of goth. Usually thought of as being depressed, mentally ill, social outcasts with nothing on there minds but pain, death and world destruction(which is not always true) I am considered a 'goth' I do usually wear all black but I do so not because I want to be popular but because it is comfortable to me...and not everyone who wears all black are goths and not all goths wear all black...I wear red and grey and other colors.

goth-an openminded person who can laugh at him/herself as well as others...(adjective: Gothic)

Author: insanitywithacause http://goth.urbanup.com/403019
83. (Goth) (3↑, 0↓)
A spin-off of the punk genre founded in Britain in the late 70's. It was popularized in the 80's for a brief time before settling back in the underground. The American sister-genre of Goth Rock is called Deathrock. As a person, a Goth is an avid listener of Goth rock and its associated genres (deathrock, batcave, darkwave, post-punk) False ideas about Goth: "Goths are such because they like the darker side of things." "Goth is about individuality." "Marilyn Manson is Goth." "Goth is about wearing all black." "Goth is about expressing yourself." "Goth is about worshiping Satan." "Goth is about metal." "Bands like Slipknot, Flyleaf, Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Evanescence etc. are Goth." GOTH/DEATHROCK BANDS (a brief listing) .45 Grave 13th Chime 1919 Acid Bats All Gone Dead Bauhaus Christian Death Cinema Strange Corpus Delicti the Cure Darlings' Cabinet of Sundry Horror Deadchovsky Eat Your Make-Up HOLY COW the Horrors Kommunity FK *early* London After Midnight the Naked and the Dead Peter Murphy Quidam Red Lipstick Death Red Lorrry Yellow Lorry Scarlet's Remains Screams for Tina Siouxsie and the Banshees Siouxsie Sioux Sisters of Mercy Southern Death Cult Theatre of Ice (yes, Theatre) Tragic Black Undying Legacy Voodoo Church Zombie Zex

person 1: "I listen to Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy\!\!\! I'm Goth\!\!" person 2: "No, you're a fag. Nightwish is Goth\!\!" Person 2 is in the wrong.

Author: TheBatsHaveLefttheBellTower http://goth.urbanup.com/5024525
84. (goth) (4↑, 1↓)
A goth is a person who finds happiness in darkness. They are usually misenthropic due to the fact that they have storng opinions and dislikes. Goths may be cutters because thier emotions get the best of them. Music can be a minor or a major factor of thier life styles. Goths can become posers over time because as they mature they might lose parts of themselves. The normal clothing of a goth usually are dark along with daker shades of makeup. Goths are people who have chosen to be different for reasons known and unknown.

person 1: goths always have piercings. person 2: how stereotypical of you.

85. (goth) (5↑, 2↓)
A movement that arose from the death of Punk in the 1980's and embraces creativity, individuality, and exploring the more morbid side of things. Goth has been totally eclipsed by [emo] these days and the two are, atrociously, often confused, though they are nothing alike: goths are somber and intelligent with a flair for the artistic, while emos are skinny-ass teenagers who do nothing but bitch about their lives.

"That girl is SOOOOOOOO emo." "You fuckhead, she's a goth\!"

86. (Goth) (6↑, 3↓)
A label society uses to stereotype people who the public in general tend to consider "bad," or "scary." "Goth" people are the type that many will go out of their way to avoid. I can't speak for others who have been labelled, but many have refferred to me as "Goth." Presumably because I choose to wear black most of the time. usually with a trenchcoat. I have read many of the other definitions on here, and I can't say what is wright and what is wrong. This is simply the only stereotype I have been accused of being a part of. Personally I spent approximately 12 years with strong suicidal desires, later being diagnosed with bi-polar. The only really apparent aspects of my personality that I noticed which differ from "Normal," are my preference for black clothing, and I tend to stay back and speak less. Personally I consider stereotypes a lame attempt some people or groups make to attempt to seem "better" than others. The most irritating part of this aspect of society to me, is when I meet people who suddenly decide to wear black and act depressed. I have no problem with anyone wearing anything else, I merely get irritated when people try to be something they aren't. Especially when people talk about being suicidal and have no idea the struggle I go through on a regular basis simply to keep a desire to live. It's not pleasant, you don't want it, quit trying. I have never met another person who has serious issues with being suicidal and has just decided to announce it. I certainly prefer to have nobody know.

"ooh, look at me, I must be cool now because I decided to wear black and tell everyone how much life sucks, I'm such a goth, you guys all are just posers blah blah blah, wanna go but something depressing with me?"

Author: L. N. - DravenLives at myspace. http://goth.urbanup.com/2461789
87. (goth) (9↑, 6↓)
Goths are a sub-culture of punk, they have similar views to punks as well. Goth is simply a name that has been put on these people by the closed minded view of people. Most goths become goths because they have been rejected by society for their opinions of the world. Gothic groups are simly gatherings of people whos views are seen as being too 'radical' for the apparent civilised society to accept. Goths are not satanists, they are simply people who are free of prejudices so this has attracted satanists but the gothic culture also has attracted people from many other religions and sexualities because of the abscence of prejudices. Goths DO NOT mutilate bodies or anything like that they are just open minded and are open towards the darker parts of life. Goths mainly listen to black metal or the more melodic type, gothic metal. Marilyn Manson is not gothic he is a poser that uses the goth culture to make him seem rebelious. Goths are not necessarily rebelious an obvious sense and many goths are doctors, lawyers and even judges. Gothic bands include Abominant, Man Slaughter Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth

If for some reason decides that they do not like goths save your f***ing breathe, we don't care so don't just shout stuff at us in the street.

Author: iamthethorn156 http://goth.urbanup.com/2413826
88. (goth) (12↑, 9↓)
A goth is basically a person who likes the darker side of most things, and often wear a lot of black, but sometimes they wear other colors too. Goths like people, are not all the same. For instance, not all goths like metal. Some prefer softer music. Goths DO NOT worship Satan, and ARE NOT all cutters/suicidal depressing low-lives like the people you always see at Hot Topic. Just because a person wears all black n' stuff and listens to metal or something like that, it DOES NOT mean that they are suicide or cut themselves. You could be a prep who listens to Christina Aguilara and be a cutter. Some goths can be that way, but that's because they are PEOPLE not living labels and r all different\! They r not psychotic and they certainly aren't all gay/lesbian or have social issues. If somebody OBSESSES about black and says he/she loves 666 and Satan, talks about Hot Topic and/or even so much as calls him/her self a goth, they are most likely a poser. Goth is a state of mind, not a trend. A lot of posers decide to "go goth" because they think it makes them feel special or "cool". It doesn't. It makes them look stupid. Goths are not afraid to show who they really are and what they stand for. They don't care about being popular and would rather be considered an outcast or a freak than conform to everyone else. Goth(in my opinion) is a state of mind in which one sees the world through a shadowed window, but sees things for what they truly are and accept their position in the world and arn't afraid of what people think of them. So, if you go up to a goth and rag on him/her about Satan and crap and beat them up, I'll come after you. Unless it's a [poser goth] in which case i will gladly lend you a hand. Oh yeah, and one more thing, goth is NOT the same as emo. Just so we're clear on that.

Poser Goth: Hey, u wanna hang out with me at Hot Topic? Me: No\! Poser Goth: Oh okay then, yeah i guess I'll just go so i can get goth stuff so i can piss off my parents, and show how fcuked up my life is . . ." Random asshole: You guys are fucked up\! Why don't you get the hell out of here, slit your wrists already and join Marilyn Manson in Hell\! (me punches random asshole) Me: (to poser) Get a goddamn life\!

89. (Goth) (5↑, 2↓)
Someone who likes the darker side of things. Real Goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see at Hot Topic. Goths are fun to be around and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. Goths don't all dress alike either. They like to create their own unique style. Goths are also very intelligent and creative. A lot of them are writers and artists. Goths do not envy the popular people. They are what they are because it makes them happy. Goths would rather stay who they are and be among the so called "freaks" than be like everyone else and be popular. They understand that there are more important things in life than popularity. A person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colors. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a cynical sense of humor, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/ depressed/ weird/ mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people. A Goth will walk alone where others will hide inside their herd. A Goth will insult only those who have earned it whereas others will insult people for things as shallow as the clothes they are wearing. A Goths insult will be witty and cutting, others insult more often than not will consist of them making a repulsive noise. In the morning, a Goth will ask themselves “What do I want to wear?” whilst others will ask themselves “What in this selection of clothes is the most acceptable thing to wear?” A Goth will have a friend because they are good for someone, a others will have a friend because that someone is good for them. A Goth approaches new situations with a willingness to think and find the best way forward, others will react with aggression to that which it does not already know. A Goth will listen to music that is meaningful to their life and thought provoking, others will listen to music which will tell him how to behave. Goths have no interest in popularity whatsoever. They think outside the box. Goths don't usually care what other people think of them. Goths don't care, either what sexuality, religion, or whatever others are. Goths are people who are obviously unique or different. Most choose to dress in black or darker colors showing what they feel for in life. Not like what a lot of people say, Goths don't always wear black since they wear bright colors too. Goths are usually the ones who don't speak much, dyes their hair in strange colors, shows mostly dark, creative artwork, and such. They're not limelight hungry. They tend to focus on the darker side of life. Goth is suggestive of a dark, morbid outlook on life, but not without a sense of humor. They attract friends who are like them, who aren't necessarily gothic but enjoy a good time and know how to think for themselves. You'll find that generally they are funny and interesting and aren't afraid to say what they think. ’Goth’ is not about Satan worshipping, scaring people or shocking them. It is a lifestyle, an art. It's beauty, showing people who you are. ‘Goths’ tend to have true depth and insight and an opinion worth listening to. There thoughts are darker and they perceive things differently to how other might do. Goths have a way of recognizing the beauty of things that seem so morbid and tragic to others, although anyone can see these things ‘normal people’ usually tend not too. Goths like to be individuals. Goths embrace ALL of life, good and bad. Goths understand that the best and most lasting joy is tinged with a little sadness, and that all love is bittersweet. Goths understand that not everybody has to be happy 24/7, and that the way to succeed is not by pretending you are. Sunlit skies are beautiful, yes, but so are dark cloudy ones. What is white without black? What is a rose without thorns? Thus, by embracing the shadows as well as the sun, Goths are, in many cases, actually more emotionally healthy than those in mainstream society. Goth is someone who likes the different side of things. They have their own choice in music, and they don't care if no-one else likes it or not. Real Goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see around town. Goths are fun to be around with and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't all worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. A Goth is just a person, usually one who appreciates both the "positive" and "negative", the "yin" and "yang", "good" and "evil" aspects of life. Usually Goths believe that there's nothing in this world that can be completely spelled out in black and white. Usually Goths tend to wear black clothing, ornate with metal, but also often enjoy interspersing it with bright colors. A lot of Goths dye their hair or have piercings, or wear lots of makeup, which is more an artistic outlet than anything. Pure Goths: Usually found dressing in sort of old-school European style clothing, with lots of black. Often is a strong supporter of animal rights, or a vegan. They usually subscribes to some form of paganism. Being Goth is not about self inflicted harm. GOTHS CAN SHOP AT HOT TOPIC... SOME WO SHOP THERE ARE POSERS BUT GOTHS DRESS HOW THEY LIKE AND IF WE LIKE HOT TOPIC, WE WILL SHOP THERE

She dresses in black and chains and such, she is a happy person usually but has her problems like most do, is she goth? Maybe.

Author: Meeeeeeeeeeeeee Urban http://goth.urbanup.com/1976486
90. (goth) (12↑, 9↓)
Ive just been reading this column...I'm not a goth...More of a heavy I guess. Most of these "categories" you're all making don't mean anything. Goth is just a stupid label given to us by chavs -see [chav]-. They try to use it as an insult to us but really it's merely a compliment to our creative styles and fashions, as opposed to buying a pair off adidas trainers because we saw a bloke on t.v. wearing them. Goth's exist...but they are rare and few. Categories don't exist. If you consider yourself a goth, then unfortuantely yes...you may be a poser, but to the rest of you... "Stop categorising us" and to any chavs out there..."..i. II ,i.." Go f**k yourselves.

-Urban dictionary know it all's post- "I hereby declare there are four types of goth...*random ranting about life and polotics which are relatively unrelated to the subject* I declare you all wannabe's, I AM the only true goth around...*hobbles off with terrible limp from being so far up his own arse* -Random dude browsing the forums- "Dude...let people live how they want...and stop telling people what they are or aren't. Isn't that the fundaments of being who we are...which means...You aren't a real goth\! HAH\!" -Random event and personal true story- Chav:"Yo mosh, wot fuck ya fink ur doin?" Mosher:"Simply going home dude...i'm not looking for trouble..." Chav:"Ye am truble bruv', n ur innit" (Mosher can't help but smile at this comment) Chav:"Wtf u say bout ma famly?\!" Mosher:*realising he's going to be attacked and beaten whatever he says next* "I said bend over and I'll do you like your dad does...bruv" ---------------------- Mosher wakes up stiff from bruising yesterdays and smiles as he remembers his line and silently mouths:"That was so worth it"

91. (Goth) (16↑, 13↓)
i just have to say this- most of the labels and definitions used here by "goths" defending their lifestyles and feelings are ludacris. how can you claim to be so enlightened about life and other people's ideas when you yourselevs are labeling everyone who isn't a "goth" a "jock" or "nerd" or whatever else. just because someone doesn't dress in a "non-conformist" doesn't mean that they aren't enlightened or intelligent or self-actualized. it may just mean that they find those clothes comfortable, or like the way they look. you all claim to be so enlightened and individual, but you seem very quick to attack and condemn everyone who doesn't rebel in a shallow way (clothes, hair etc.). before you attack the rest of the world for putting labels on you, look at the labels you place on them.

that "goth" just called me a "jock." hmmmmmm

92. (goth) (17↑, 14↓)
goth: a teen, often found in dark, elegant unique clothing two goths are rarely the same. stereo types of goths moody; goths come across as moody as the only people they will talk ot are the ones worth talking to. they are often articulate, and are either extreamly intelligent, or extreamly creative and excel in their feild of speciality. suicidal/depression/disorders: most goths have a trait of depression, thus its only due to them knowing the world better than others and seeing it for how it is. disorders can affect anyone at any time, but goths tend to show a paticularly good insight to what might be their problem and can often overcome it on their own. goth: a goth will most likely tell you she/he is NOT a goth, or that they supposedly fit into that label. they are extreamly annoyed by the young teens trying to be goths and so on, and anyone who dosnt seem able of having their own identity. they tend to stay out of large groups and despise social circles, as they find the huge hype over nothing incredibly agravating. though, to most people, the things a goth will talk about somtimes is nonsence and jsut a random subject, though it sounds like its not.

eg go to camden market in london its full of goths

Author: paris valentine http://goth.urbanup.com/1440383
93. (goth) (34↑, 31↓)
I have read most of the definitions on this page. Most are not true. In fact, over half on here are defiantly not happy with their lives, if they need to mock or threaten other cultures… same with religion, I must say. If Christians have such a strong belief in god and are happy with it, why do they need to poke at Satanists or pagans. Be proud of what you believe in, there are now laws protecting Satanists and occults. There is hardly anything left of the 'Goth' scene today, all of the Goths either dress like eras from the past or either what they think the future will look like. Being ‘Goth’ is not about self inflicted harm. Some of you may have serous problems and feel suicidal and may self harm. Do not boast about cutting for attention, and then complain about the more popular people round you needing attention all the time. Some of you may be unhappy, some incredibly happy with their lives. Cyber ‘Goths’ are always clubbing and dancing, they are labeled Goth and yet they are not dressing to show off that they cut themselves. If you had serous pain in some time of your live, and want to show people that you are ok now, proudly show your scars, it proves that you lived through drug abuse/child abuse or anything that made you commit that. To all the teenagers out there who are dressing in black and claiming to be members of an occult, and always complain about not being around other people and have no friends. Why do you dress like that? It’s just intimidating and none of the other students your age will want to know you. As for the others, be yourself. If being Goth means you have to force yourself to listen to music that sounds naturally bad, then why do you do it? If it is because all your friends or 'posse' are Goth, if they are truly your friends, they will understand if you want to become not Goth. Isn’t this true? If you complain, then you must defiantly be those I just explained. Listen to other peoples opinions, but question them if it needs questioning. And just one last thing. This was written by a 13 year old. Just to let you know, i am not a hypocrite. I am proud of every word I say. If you saw me, you would not even know. If you do know what I mean.

1. Goth could be anything you want it to be,there are so many types or areas of 'goths'.

Author: snow_immortal http://goth.urbanup.com/1338162
94. (goth) (27↑, 24↓)
A goth is an artistic person with a huge aesthetic who expresses this in a dark way. Real gothic music is The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, Sisters Of Mercy etc. Goths are ususally associated with Satanism, which is completely untrue because you will find goths tend to have no religious beliefs or no strong religious beliefs, though a very very very small minority are Satanists. Goth is also usually a term used as an attempted insult by [chavs] and the like, mainly because chavs have nothing better to do besides insult people different to them and terrorise communities.

1) From a chav-Yowm a fucking goth, yow worship the devil ya freak, dya wanna fight? 2) From a goth to a chav-Tit

95. (goth) (10↑, 7↓)
Short for Gothic. Used to refer to a musical subculture. Orginally, the goth movement was an outgrowth of the late 50's Bohemian poet-culture (the original black beret-wearing coffee-swilling poetry-reading hipsters. Be zorch, daddy-o\!). The goth movement celebrated dark music and dark poetry; eloquence and intellectualism was praised. Goths dressed well, often in Victorian or Edwardian garb, always formal. Goths were fatalistic celebrants; they were dancing in the Apocalypse. Musical icons include Machines of Loving Grace and the Sisters of Mercy. Over the years, the goth movement has changed. Your typical Goth is much younger, typically in their teens. The emphasis is currently not upon creativity, but upon fashion (the blacker the better) and wannabe Alice Cooper makeup. Sarchasm and sneers are cultured and practiced. Musical darkness has changed to musical disaffection (the two are not the same, people\!). Goths are no longer about creativity; they are about out-complaining each other. Attempts at creativity are mocked, with the exception of self-pitying would-be suicide-note poetry. Goth is a thing of the past.

People say Marilyn Manson is goth. Try Leonard Cohen.

Author: Git Offa My Lawn http://goth.urbanup.com/790563
96. (Goth) (2↑, 0↓)
Goths differ to emos in that emos are unhappy about life, goths are just happy about black.

"Is that girl an emo?" "Na, she's just a goth"

Author: S.O.G. - Sexy opera girls http://goth.urbanup.com/6064562
97. (Goth) (5↑, 3↓)
That one kid who cuts himself in woodshop class.

Caleb likes to use the handsaw to bleed himself in woodshop. Goth.

Author: MickSwaggger http://goth.urbanup.com/4254207
98. (Goth) (5↑, 3↓)
A group once dedicated to being unique and itself, but has since lost its meaning due to heavy sterotyping. Goths are now only considered to be a bunch of loosers who shop at Hot Topic for [Nightmare Before Christmas] and [Invader Zim] products. Goths tend to be hypocritical and say that they aren't goth , and they're only expressing their individuality, but they look like every other goth in the world They also have a tendency to listen to metal and Marilyn Manson music, and watch (and subsequently idolize) Tim Burton movies, even if they actually hate it.

I'm a real goth because I wear what I like, listen to what I lile , and I don't conform to stupod sterotypes to fit in. And I don't like Hot Topic or Marilyn Manson, so up yours.

99. (Goth) (2↑, 0↓)
An aurora of subcultural awesomeness. Usually misunderstood by the public as a magnet for darkness and self-destruction, Goth is a form of music and fashion that is embraced by many (including myself)

Bauhaus, Christian Death, and Siouxsie and the Banshees are actualy goth bands.

100. (Goth) (20↑, 18↓)
Emo to the next level.

Goth is the opposite of Max & Ruby

Author: Persephone\goth http://goth.urbanup.com/3632829
101. (goth) (2↑, 0↓)
someone who dresses in the gothic fashion to step away from society. they usally listen to the music they like(wether it be nu-metal, deathrock, darkwave,electronica,classic rock, hardcore rap, or industrial) and don't mind most peoples opinions. these are things that real goths sometimes have that doesnt make them a poser. Depression- so a goth cant be depressed because hes goth? angst-some people are naturally angry hate-wtf? mutilation- some people are sad. not all goths live middle class satanism/vampirism- yes\! some real goths are satanist\!\! but if all of the above apply, you have a poser at hand also its ok to be goth and listen to whatever the hell you feel like

goth 1:hi goth 2:wazzup? goth 1:did you get that new cd? goth 2:yea. its cool i guess poser: i got it and i listened to it while sucking my own blood from a cut i made out of my hate and depression. im just like you\!\!\! Goth 1:no your just wierd(in head: poser\!\!\!)

102. (Goth) (9↑, 7↓)
A word that no-one in Urban dictionary can define because they don't know the concept of definition in the first place, which is a concise explanation of the meaning of a word or phrase or symbol.

John: A goth is not someone who dresses all black, acts depressed all the time and wears make up. Bill:...Then what is it? John:...Shut the fuck up.

103. (goth) (24↑, 22↓)
Ok, here's my definition... Someone who is not affraid to be different, listens to rock style music (usually metal, gothic rock, goth punk, alternative etc) and does not wish to be popular. They have creative talents and are usualy completely missunderstood. Having trawled through the other definitions on this site, i have found things which i dissagree with. Just because someone labels themself goth, does not mean that they are a fake, or a posser. If someone wears black nail polish eyeliner etc, this also does not make them posser goth. It just means that that is how they wish to look and this is what goth means to them. Also, music is something which we can debate. a goth can listen to any band they like, you cannot say that because someone who calls themself a goth, listens to manson, then they are not a "real" goth, thats stupid. manson is a goth. the whole band are goths. so, therefore, a goth band. other bands like HIM, have been debated. HIM are a goth band, no matter what you say. Ville Valo is a goth. He writes gothic lyrics. All of the songs are of a gothic style. again, a goth band, which ever way you look at them. Deathstars are a personal favorite of mine, they are also goth. ofcourse, having said that a goth can listen to any music, i do need to contradict myself. a goth that listens to r and b would be just damn riddiculous.

OK, examples. A goth is someone who may or may not be partial to wearing black clothing but most often they do. listen to music of a rock genre (music does seem to have the biggest effects on who or what you are labeled as). they are not usually popular as this is not a neccesity to them. They are their own person, nobody elses. Small minded person: You're not a goth, you listen to HIM Goth: HIM are a goth band Small minded person: No they're not Goth: Why not??? Small minded person: Erm... cos thats what my friends say? Goth: you're friends are stupid

Author: Ville_Is_My_God http://goth.urbanup.com/1883459
104. (goth) (12↑, 10↓)
A darker culture that can be anything you make it. Some impose guidelines, and other sad, decrepit, pathetic creatures try to follow those guidelines, but in essence, most 'goths' revolve around the basics of wearing dark clothing and being non-Christian. [Marilyn Manson] is not NECESSARILY goth, and neither is [black metal]. They could be considered goth, they could be considered not. It is entirely up to the beholder.

Ladies, you do not have to color your tampons black to be a goth.

105. (goth) (9↑, 7↓)
Goths tend to have a dark and perverse sense of humor, a love of history, literature, and music, and far too many bottles of black nail polish. But trying to slot goths into orderly little sections is pretty much impossible. The spectrum of interests, styles, and activities is far too broad. Sometimes the clothes can be a clue, but not always. Just look for that appreciation of darkness--that's the most reliable indicator. The "classic" goth music scene and the industrial music scene, there are people on both sides who shun the other. Some goths who like the "classic" look of velvet and lace look down upon goths who prefer fishnet and leather. Some goths who like pop-culture entertainments and things that are lighthearted are ostracized by others who believe that nothing is worthwhile unless it is obscure and dark. Like any culture, it has divisions and cliques. Being goth is, in the end, a form of tribalism, a way for people of like interests and mindset to find each other and have a place to belong. Like most tribes, goths will often try to keep out those who are not "of" the tribe (hence the pretentiousness and disdain for "poseurs"). But it can also be a wonderfully welcoming and comfortable place for those who do fit in, and full of patience and enthusiasm for people who are genuinely interested in finding out what we're about. Goths will try to keep out those who don't belong, and those who are interested in exploiting us because we look different and have interests outside the mainstram; but we will also try to protect our own. For someone who doesn't feel that they really "fit in" with mainstream culture, discovering gothdom can be a wonderful feeling. However, the term "goth" does NOT refer to the Arcetectural or Literature movement. The proper term for this would actually be [gothic] (def. 2). Said term does not generally encompas the subculture, but may, in select minds.

"Goths are not really that terribly different from any other subculture. they just dress more imaginatively"

106. (goth) (1↑, 0↓)
A person who isn't afraid of the darker side of life and appreciates light and dark. They're artistic, usually writing music, poems, stories, or drawing, painting, anything of the sort. It doesn't mean they can't be scientific, though. It's also proven in psycology that the "gothic" youths are smarter than average children. They usually wear black, however they can also wear purples, greens, blues, reds, even white. Any colour can truly be goth, what matters is how it's worn. Goths have exotic choice in accessories, wearing top hats, corsets, lace, ruffles, old style crosses, goggles, masks, dreads, wedges, chains, and other hardware. They are normal people that just have a more philosophic, open mind and a wider range of tastes. They stray from just mainstream and usually prefer metal, rock, indie, punk, etc. Bands like Nightwish and Lacuna Coil are good examples. They're passionate and romantic, and very coy. Often thought of as devil worshipping freaks, which is completely untrue. They like pale skin and dramatic makeup. Life is more fun when it's riddled with different struggles than, "Oh no, my car broke down". Goths are NOT bad people, evil, scary, weird, or anything. They're perfectly normal.

"Oh em gee, look at that goth girl" "She's sooo weird\! Little [freak] \! Who wears a frilly dress to school?" And the goth walks by, flashing her brightest smile, her eyes hinting mischief as she goes about her day, humming rhythms of her favorite songs.

Author: TheLovelyFreak http://goth.urbanup.com/5441748
107. (Goth) (1↑, 0↓)
A goth is person who likes sad but pretty things; like old churches and black roses. they wear dark, eroticised fashion with colours; black, purple, indigo, blue and/or red. is is typicly punk, new romantic to medieval and victorian inspired with Christian, Agnostic and Pagan jewelry.

Amy is a goth

Author: Evrae Wolfsong http://goth.urbanup.com/5100142
108. (Goth) (2↑, 1↓)
As there are many definitions and stereotypes surrounding Goths, let me just put it this way: My definition of "Goth" ---------------------------------------------------------- Goths are people who just be themselves. They don't wear black all the time. They aren't all depressed. They aren't all emo. Most of them don't shop at Hot Topic. They don't all have to listen to Gothic Rock. THEY AREN'T ALL SATANIC. They aren't all suicidal. They aren't all violent. Most of them laugh (and some of them laugh more than others). I could go on and on, correcting stereotypes, but I have a life, as all other Goths do (and what do you know, there goes another stereotype).

Poser: liek, oh my goth, hot topic is sooooooo goth\! Actual Goth: Hot Topic is a stereotypical 'goth' store that actually has nothing to do whatsoever with Gothic Fashion. Go ahead and shop there if you want, poser. (Army of Chav Friends Surround Poser) Chavs: \@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@ defend defend \@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@ yo, 'choo hasslin 'im for, dawg? dat aint kool\! \@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@\@ defend defend Actual Goth: Um... may I have a translation, please? Chavs: Er... what? Actual Goth: Tell me what you said in English, please. Chavs: poser\! ur nawt goth, dawg\! u dont shop at hottopic or listen to marilyn manson or dress in all black or be violent or anythin\! Lead Chav: cmon, mah homies\! lets blow this popsicle stand an pimp up the park\! well leaf dis here poser to rot at dis dump\! Actual Goth (to self): I guess this is a case of "Monkey see, monkey do."

109. (Goth) (1↑, 0↓)
A type of architecture, A type of calligraphy, Also some blokes that invaded Rome. So to all the little ppl that think your "Goth" please grow up, you obviously dont know shit.

Goth is not you, or your little friends, or anyone else you know.

Author: Kitty the super phreak http://goth.urbanup.com/4470905
110. (goth) (1↑, 0↓)
An short explanation of gothic art; literature; and subculture: Anything that is goth or gothic relates to some degree how the old Germanic tribes were viewed. Around the 12th Century gothic architecture started to appear. It was called gothic because certain critics considered this new form of art as barbaric as the old Germanic tribes. Gothic art was seen as raw, unrefined, and was better suited for a past and forgotten era. The term gothic was also later used to describe a type of story or poem, normally associated with horror and the supernatural. This was probably looked on with some distaste like the art form before. As for todays goth subculture although it was born in the 80s with the invention of goth rock music, the word goth still relates to something that is unpleasing because it seems harsh and unrefined. Although punk could also be considered harsh and unrefined, it is commonly associated with anarchism, while the goth subculture was associated with the philosophy of nihilism. Nihilism has many branches to it, but in its simplest form it is extreme skepticism.

Gothic architecture contained pointed arches, the ribbed vault and the flying buttress. Gothic literature often included horror, terror, medieval backdrops and gothic buildings, melodrama, and parodies.

111. (Goth) (10↑, 9↓)
I really don't believe in labeling people but I guess this is a good way to show people out there who believe we're scary people: but we are not. God forbid, we don't even usually intend wanting to scare anyone. Most of what you hear today is just mostly based off of some jerks' loud mouth blabbing about things, so I'll just begin with some things I deal with EVERYDAY: 1. Goths' are Satanists. -Okay. Satanism is a religion and not a cult thing. Yes, there could be a few people who are apart of the group who could be into it, but really, its nothing to make a big deal about. It is your own choice what you want to be, so there could be what some consider 'preps' out there who are into it, so watch what you say before you open your mouth. And I wear crosses, so what does that tell you? 2.Goths' are all depressed. -Another thing that bothers me. Depression could happen to anyone, even those people you think are popular and so attractive. God forbid, even though some wear dark clothes or most of our choices clothing-wise, it doesn't mean we're all depressed. Its a serious thing to be bipolar or feeling suicidal, and that's when you need to tell someone. And the reason why I wear black is because I feel comfortable in my own skin with my clothes and I feel less noticed, unlike some girls who wear bright, flashy clothes. And also, being pinned for cutting yourself is not something to be proud of. And this culture doesn't even stand for that crap and I hope no young people out there think that is what all the 'Goths' do, because its not. If you do do that, then go get help. And if you do it for fun, then you're being stupid. 3. They're music is so scary\! All of it is screaming\! -Before you begin giving everyone crap about what you think of anyone's music, I think you should try thinking about how it would feel to have everyone talk smack about your taste. Yes, I say crap about most of the artists today, but that is because most of it is crap. Making music takes talent and playing instruments, playing from your heart and talking about real things, not just about the prostetute girls singing about their boyfriend that they will replace tomorrow. I mean, what the heck is that? Music for us is something that we can relate to and isn't fake. And no, not everyone of us listens to screaming/grindcore/melodramatic/gothic/dark music. That's everyone's choice to choose. 4. Why do they wear all black? -To tell you the truth, I think its a classical color and less noticeable. I don't like being the black dot on the white wall but I seriously like how I feel dressing like I do. And not all of us dress in all-black: there is blood red, dark purple, midnight blue...any color that is closely romantic and connected to Victorian times...and that is where most of the clothing ideas come from. The Victorians were very beautiful and I love the corsets\! And I really hate how everyone stereotypes us to be cloaked in total darkness with black makeup and hair. Not all the people have black hair. This style, to me, let's me express myself and wear whatever I want. I have dyed my hair black, brown, deep red, dark purple, blue, burgundy. Its all about being who you are and not following some stupid stereotype or kids who think they're this 'hardcore goth'. Some kids think that, especially in Junior High or High School, but they usually shop at Hot Topic (Which isn't even closely related) and listen to pop, complain about how sad their lives are, and how they hate preppy people. But not everyone does that. "Mall Goths" or "Baby Bats" are terms used for that. -Usually get their clothes from the Mall- -Starters and very young in the scene...not completely educated- Also, putting on makeup is a form of creativity and to tell you the truth, liquid eyeliner is a dog to put on. The peircings are fun to get because, for me, its something I can be proud of that I had done to myself. And its fun to do your makeup in different ways, not always dramatic either. Usually, the pale skin comes from the black contrasting against your skin color but people sometimes wear white powder that helps even it out a little more. I wear it sometimes because I think I look pretty and elegant. Its nice to feel good about yourself. I wear boots because I feel taller. 5. What's up with them being alone? -I think I covered this, but most of us actually aren't choosing to be alone. Most of the group tends to be artistic and that's when we get to express ourselves. I draw, play the piano, flute, guitar, and write stories and poetry. And I think its a wonderful and awesome way to be yourself. If you want friends, go join a club or do something with people who like to do the same things. And reading is nice to do...Stephen King especially. Photography is interesting, too. 6. Are they all interested in Vampires? Like I have said before, everyone can like anything they want to. I like vampires but my friend who calls herself a fellow 'Goth' doesn't. 7. Why do they like death so much? I think being able to look at the less brighter side of life is a great feat. Some can't even accept that one thing happened to them, so they keep looking at the positive. It is self-harming to always bring the worse on you (personaly know) but I think its nice to know you can tell when things could be a lot better than they were now. I think death is fascinating: what is on the other side? Who is there? But, some don't. Whatever you want to believe, go do it. So, I hope a few people learned from this and try not to stereotype yourself. Its a hideous ordeal and if you want to go through life with everyone telling you you are things, then be my guest. Its wrong and I know its a common habit to want to be apart of something, but don't let anyone tell you who you are. Also: if you're one of those kids who are on here trying to find ideas about how to be a 'goth' or how to convince your parents to let you 'be' it; I want you to leave this site now and rethink what you're doing. You don't magically turn into something, but you measly slip into it unnoticed. And if people come up to you and say, "Hey\! I was Goth in High School too\!" then you know they weren't being serious. You grow into it but if you were the real deal, you never grow out. I hope my opinions didn't offend anyone but I just wanted it out there so some could actually learn from it.

1. "Hey\! Do you go to church in that?" "Yes. And my priest compliments me\!" 2. "Do you cut yourself? Show me your arms and wrists." "Oh, wow. Look at that. Nothing on my body\! Now why don't you quit harrassing me." 3. "What the heck are you listening to? It makes my ears bleed." "Kittie and why don't you quit listening to what you're playing in your ears and stuff some cotton balls in your ears." 4. "Are you going to a funeral?" "Nope. I'm just dressing for any occasion." 5. "Why are you back here?" "I'm thinking about how my next song I'm writing is going to go." 6. "Bite me, you Goth feak\!" "I don't suck blood. I'm a vegetarian." 7. "Did you hear about the old person that croaked?" "Nope, but I'm sure you'll tell me about it."

112. (Goth) (1↑, 0↓)
1.) Regular people just like you and I but with an outlook on life that isn't about following what other people do, but just doing their own thing. 2.) A person who is ridiculed for doing their own thing and living life their way. 3.) A person who gets judged and labeled for what they wear and how they act.

A Goth is someone that follows what they believe rather than what other people believe. Rather than following the latest trends, they create their own. Goths are constantly ridiculed for doing their own thing rather than what other people are doing. People judge Goths all the time just because they act and dress differently. That doesn't mean they're bad people. It just means they're different. In highschool, the only crowd i hung out with was Goths. And they're the nicest people i've met.

Author: The_Best_Who_Ever_Lived http://goth.urbanup.com/3844445
113. (Goth) (3↑, 2↓)
1.germanic tribe from yonkies ago 2.a style of writing or artwork. 3.a group of people who listen to gothic music such as Vampyrouss, Sisters of mercy, Bella morte, Bauhus, The Cruxshadows, siouxsie and the banshees,The cure and other such bands. 4.people who dress to fit the person they are, people who dont care about social norms, or what people think of them, they always want to learn and find new ways to express themselves 5.(this is an example of not goth) people who listen to marilyn manson, slipknot, KoRn, limp biskit and hang around in the mall out side shops wearing band shirts and badly applied black eyeliner and lipstick.claiming to be different while their friend standing next to them looks like a clone.

1.check wikipedia 2.victorian style buildings, dracula, wuthering heights,jane eyre and in some respects romeo and juliet..in some ways. 3.the bands listed above.(vampyrouss and the cruxshadows beign the best there :P) 4.opposite of a teeny bopper 5.marilyn manson, those kids standing outside hot topic saying man im so goth right now.

Author: ParasiticVampyric http://goth.urbanup.com/3767321
114. (goth) (4↑, 3↓)
A genre of person who dresses a certain way, sterotypically in mostly black and with articles of clothing that go against the commonly accepted "norms" of society. They also listen to a certain genre of music. Also they do not hang out with other groups of people, such as preps or jocks, because if they have non-goth friends they are a "poser". Many goths feel as though they are being unique by acting the way they do, which is true because they are different from other genres of humans. However each goth is only as unique from each other goth as much as any prep (or otherwise) is unique from any other prep. To be goth you have to conform to a certain way of dressing and acting, or else you are a poser. Therefore, one of the primary aspects of being goth is being a nonconformist, but to be goth you have to conform. So to recap, goths are just another social group and then need to relize that and stop mocking other social groups for being conformists or being annoying by acting in the manner consistent with their social group.

Goth: God look at those teeny bopper conformists. Goth2: I know if only they would dress like us and act like us then we could like them. Goth: Yeah, if the whole world were like us then the world would be perfect Sociologist: Are you two aware that if you want to be unique then you shouldn't shop at the same stores as every other goth ever. By having your own genre of clothing, music, way of acting, and people who fall short of your standards and are therefore "posers", you are no more unique or better than any other group.

Author: Able Tothinksanely http://goth.urbanup.com/3281678
115. (goth) (2↑, 1↓)
An ancient germanic tribe consisting of the ostrogoths and the visigoths who sacked rome, not to be confused with the industrial subculture often reffered to as goth, a goth is not someone who wears all black and makeup, the only true goths are germans or people with german heritage whos bloodline dates back to the ancient gothic tribes of germania

Person 1:"that person i so goth" person 2:"hey kid in black are you of east german decent" kid in black:"no im not" person 2:"do you consider yourself goth" kid in black:"yes" person 1"see i told you" person 2"i already just proved that he isnt gothic"

Author: skinheadfuckingsteve http://goth.urbanup.com/3073787
116. (Goth) (2↑, 1↓)
Firstly,Goths dont hate everyone dont want to kill everyone dont want to kill thenselves dont live life like dead arent always sad dont wear black all the time are normally just like u\!

most people class marilyn manson as a goth\! but in his concerts he smiles. he doesnt wear black all the time. he doesnt kill people and if he wanted to kill himself them he'll be dead. everyone is unique\! wear what they like, listen to what they like, act like whatever they want\! so i really dont think people should be labeled by the way they are\! Were all unique

Author: Anastasia .D. http://goth.urbanup.com/3011428
117. (Goth) (6↑, 5↓)
The finest human beings on earth.

Saved my life, a goth did. mmm... kinky...

Author: TylerTheGothicMountie http://goth.urbanup.com/2672212
118. (Goth) (6↑, 5↓)
Why do you define it? Why bother? The first thing someone does when they're introduced to something is anylize it, and dissect it. why? I don't need a philosophy of a goth to be one. Why do you need to be an expert on one the moment you see one on the street, in a restaurant, we are everywhere. It goes without saying. We have been taken over by what the world envisions it's citizens, by what America envisions it's citizens (especially it's children) to be. It has a fixed view of how we should behave; when we behave out of character you label us instead of adressing us. I can't help but ask why. Let me startoff by clarifying something that's been a back and forth idea. Marylin Manson isn't REALLY a goth. He's more of a split person. He actually reminds me of Amy Lee; in the sense that the goth side of him is more reserved for the stage. He's not just weird, he's free. He lives the way he wants, not the way you want. At the end of the day it's his life. I said that to say this; why waste your time to criticize something that you've only witnessed from a vague and foggy point of view. you haven't taken the time to know us. If you did you wouldn't have anything to say about us. In the truest sense we are no different than you. Let me just cut to the chase; my favorite Hollywood line. Goth is, in the oldest form of the word, a German tribe that once sacked Rome. in the not too distant form it started out as a variant of punk. I did a little research and found that the first group to start wearing black was The Doors; eventually their fans took in this look and before long it wasn't just a variant of punk, but a sub-culture instead. The modern and current sense of the word is a bit difficult to explain. It's been tossed around and toyed with so much that it's become the most unique thing around. It's unreal is what it is. Goth, in the simplest is not an anti-christ cult.You wouldn't believe how many people believe this; and these aren't just a bunch of crazies, but decent respectable people. the easy reason for this is because this isn't too far from what todays society sees. the first thing we did when [Columbine] came around was stick it to the goths; and if you asked them now...they couldn't tell you why. I even heard a few things being thrown around about the [Virginia Tech]. I've heard psychiatrist's define us as dour and depressed group of teens who are obsessed with the macabre and have surrounded themselves with the thought that they are alone and that their lives aren't worth living. I'm ashamed to say that when I read those words I wanted to use this person for target practice. I am not depressed, I am fifteen. I just happen to have the luxury of seeing the world for what it really is. We need to stop being defined, this is killing us. We have been tossed around the room so much that I sometimes wish that we could be left alone to rebuild. Don't write what you haven't taken the time to learn.

I was in middle school one day when somebody came up to me. I wanted to kneecap him, if only out of principle. He said: Why would you do that? Don't you have any decency? I said: ...WHA?\! He said: Did God kick you to the curb, is that why you're with them satanists freaks over there (he pointed to my friends.) I said: ...WHA?\! He said: I can help you. see there's there's this church I go to every wednesday and sunday. You can't be gay man (then he whispers...it's a sin, and the nods.) I said: Okay...so far I said a fraction of a word to you and in the past five minutes i've become both a satanist and gay. I then said:(sarcastically of course\!\!) Keep going man...your'e on a roll. He walked away\!\! I swear to everyone reading this that it is 100% true. The entire time he never used the word goth.

119. (Goth) (4↑, 3↓)
Okay, many definitions have already been said but heres another one

I hang about in school with a group of 'goths'. These are my closest friends and are the most interesting people you could meet. all of together have so much fun and gernerally take the piss out of life. True, some goths do self harn and kill themselves, but most of then just wear dark clothes to portray their emotions. Just because someone is 'goth' does not mean they are limited to a certain type of music. Whilts looking throught a friends IPod i found a selection on non-goth songs by bands such as westlife and cascada, these are definatly not 'goth'. so to round up, goths are basicall people who follow thier own way in life and live life to the full.

120. (goth) (7↑, 6↓)
Goth is just a sterotype. In real terms a goth is just an ancient Roman person who lived long long ago. but it has developed so much since then...like...um...well let's see...many people see goths as homo's or queers who want attention but many goth WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE\!\!\!\!\! STOP THE DAMN sterotyping it sucks. but ne ways just leave others alone and maybe u won't get hurt

red and black clothing usually hott and secy lol That chick lived long ago in a goth commuity

121. (Goth) (17↑, 16↓)
contrary to normal belief goth is a clothing. goth and gothic are different. to be goth is to wear the clothes, but they are perfectly normal people if approached in the correct way. the only reason that goth people have a standoffish attitude is because they are treated like aliens not people. not all goth kids cut themselves and they dont always like dark poetry. they see the world in ways how it could be better goths appreciate the nicer happier side of life. when they are around people that they feel comfortable with, they talk tell jokes and laugh. most people judge others by the way that they dress not by who they are.

kid1: look at that gothic freak over there. kid2: dont say thoses things about my friend. hes really nice, you just need to give him respect. he'll respect you in turn.

Author: chinchillas and goths can be friends http://goth.urbanup.com/1700268
122. (goth) (8↑, 7↓)
1)A Goth is a fan of gothic rock who looks the part. If you spend all your money on the fashion but still don’t listen to the music, or if you spend all your money on the music but still don’t look the part, then you aren’t a Goth. Goth is not a “state of mind”. Goths do not listen to black metal, worship the devil, or are suicidal/homicidal. Sadly, there are people who will actually follow these stereotypes(posers). 2)Goth is a style of music and fashion that started in the late 1970's/early 1980's as an offshoot of punk. In reality, goths aren’t any more “dark” than mundanes (average people). It has vertually nothing to do with being different, depressed, suicidal or the word “gothic”. The first band to be called Goth was Joy Division when their music was described as “20th century gothic dance music”. After that, this style of music was called “gothic rock”, which really had nothing to do with the ancient Germanic tribe, The Goths, Gothic architecture, or the Gothic period. Then there was Siouxsie and the Banshees(who were actually a punk band), whose look and sound was immitated by various future Goth bands. Bauhaus was probably the first actual Goth band. Their song “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”(which is the ultimate Goth theme song) came out on the soundtrack of The Hunger, a vampire movie featuring David Bowie in ’79. Following Bauhaus were other early Goth bands like Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Dead Can Dance, Rosetta Stone, etc. While Goth was more inspired by Glam, Deathrock(which was also happening at the time) was more inspired by horror-punk. Some early Deathrock bands include Christian Death, Alien Sex Fiend, 45 Grave, and Specimen(who opened the popular club The Batcave). In the 1990’s when Goth was first popularized, there came a little band called Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids. This is basically what started the “mallcore” thing. A mall Goth is someone who wears baggy black clothes/shops at hot topic, hangs out at the mall, wears horrible looking makeup and listens to bands like Manson, Korn, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, The Birthday Massacre, etc. Basically a poser. This is also the time when Industrial, Cyber Goth and Rivithead got big. Things that were called Goth were straying more and more from what it truly was. Some sub-genres of Goth(a few that I’ve already mentioned above) include deathrock, batcave, gothabilly, darkwave, EBM, ambient, ethereal, post-punk, etc. Some popular Goth aesthetics include Romantigoth, Cyber Goth, Rivithead, Deathrocker, Gothabilly, and Classic Goth.

1)Oh my god, you have to see Carey's new Gothy haircut, she looks like Siouxsie Sioux. 2)Check out this new Goth band, they sound like Frank the Baptist.

Author: Lace Lachrymose http://goth.urbanup.com/1532055
123. (Goth) (18↑, 17↓)
"Goth" or "Gothic" refers to many things. 1) (Original meaning) The Goths were a tribe of what we would now call Germans, who, despite the Romans' constant efforts to steal their land, [pwned] Rome old-school back in the day; this led to the fall of the Roman empire. They were known for having beards, thus the term "barbarian" (as "barbarus" is Latin for beard). They were also known to be "uncivilized;" for example, they did not have walls, and had no significant military technology or battle strategy, yet often crushed the Romans with vicious charging attacks. 2)An angular and high-ceilinged style of architecture (known as "gothic") created during the Middle Ages which was derided as "gothic" in the sense of "barbaric" by pretentious Renaissance types who had bad taste in architecture. Most remaining gothic buildings are churches. 3)Goth is a subculture consisting of people known as "goths." 4)A Goth is a member of the above-mentioned subculture, who often (though not necessarily always) wears Goth clothing and may or may not listen to Goth music. Goths are generally atheists, often intellectual, and for the most part are not interested in mainstream music or mainstream values (such as materialism). Goth clothing is all generally black, but other than this Goth fashion varies. It generally does not include things such as t-shirts, sneakers or shorts, and can include any of the following: -metal chains -large black boots -Victorian-style dresses (usually black) -corsets -black eye makeup -leather -studded or spiked belts -various accesories involved in [BDSM] -unusual hairstyles 5)Goth is a broad term for types of music, which though having no very specific definition (as practically no one calls their music "Goth music"), are generally rock which resembles [metal] (in both sound and instrumentation) and sometimes [industrial] rock (e.g. Nine Inch Nails). It tends to be dark both musically and thematically, particularly in relation to mainstream pop music. The main difference between Goth music and metal is that Goths listen to and play Goth music and metalheads listen to metal and often dislike Goths. Also, Goth music is less likely to have guitar solos and more likely to have female vocalists. Some music is however referred to as Goth metal, e.g. Lacuna Coil and Type O Negative. Marilyn Manson's music can be referred to as Goth, but then, many people would consider that statement personally insulting. The band Evanescence is also sometimes called Goth, but many Goths also find this claim insulting due to a perceived similarity between and Evanescence and a nu-metal band called Linkin Park, whose music is complete [shit]. 6)"Goth" can be used as an insult by [fool]s, much in the same way that [punk] is used by [douche]s as an insult to people who openly call themselves punks.

"Why would anyone love a punked-out Goth freak?" -Britney Spears, referring to Amy Lee of Evanescence "That building is so flagrantly Gothic\! Well, I never\! Architecture has just gone downhill since the Romans, don't you agree, Jeeves?"

124. (Goth) (11↑, 10↓)
hmm... quite hard to define (for every REAL goth it is differnet)any ways ill try to break it down into categorys --------------------------- goth isnt a label,its a lifestyle the posers dont like to be labeled because they find it offensive --------------------------- there are many religons in the lifestle with very few "satanists" --------------------------- Hot Topic isnt a poser store (although ALOT of posers shop there) it caters to the the 2nd newest style in the culture: the urban goth(kinda of a cross between all of the different styles) --------------------------- Cyber: they dress like they are from the future Romantic/medival:they dress like they are from the renisance and romantic periods of history Raver:HUGE pants, some cyber stuff, alot of black light stuff Fetish:tight clothing leather and pvc --------------------------- Above all goth is a mind set relizing the darker side of life our fucked up society hides WE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE sometimes we are depressed and feeling dark we feel the same as everyone else --------------------------- Most poser eventually relize that they aern't gothic at all and then dress like everyone else (disgusting) you dont become goth, your born into it

Some kid:Goth\! Poser:dont label me Me:you both need to grow up

Author: invaderzim69 http://goth.urbanup.com/1455797
125. (Goth) (9↑, 8↓)
1.)Goths are people that normall yearn to be different, but by all being different, they become their own "culture" which keeps them from being different. People that are not "goth" tend to think that goths are creepy, weird, evil, satanic, or just plain dumb or strange. Well...no, theyre not. i may not be a goth, but they are just people. that happen to be dressed differently than other people. 2.)The word comes from a tribe that invaded a part of the Roman Empire, but just as the Romans, fell when the Huns attacked/invaded.

1.)umm...yea...other people\! lmfao :-P 2.) O NO THE GOTHS ARE ATTACKING\! lol.

126. (goth) (5↑, 4↓)
In reference to the subculture; A term that has been thrown around so much these days, who knows what it actually means. I know that, it seems to be defined by the music you listen to... which I think, personally, is ridiculous. Even some of the the open minded people who say they are goth assume that all fans of slipknot and manson are posers, and think that they're badass because they listen to that music. Well, here's a newsflash- goths can wear tons of different styles of clothes and listen to different styles of music. Just because someone listens to Slipknot or Marilyn Manson doesn't mean they are poser. There are a lot of types of goths, and suggesting music defines the person is just stupid and close-minded. So, instead of listening to all these people saying "goths are depressed, suicidal satanists (which, btw, isnt the evil religion people make it out to be o.O)" ALONG with "all people who like slipknot and manson are posers who think theyre goths and are just trying to be 'cool'", why don't you listen to me and the other people with brains out there who know that "goth" doesn't rely on music or religion or anything like that. (shortened version: a subculture that ISN'T just about wearing black nail polish and listening to certain music and its hard to define it, because theyre all so different.)

Music doesn't make the goth.

127. (goth) (9↑, 8↓)
Whoever started talking of the Goths was going way off topic, Goths and goths are two different things. The Goths were a Germanic tribe, goths (gothic sub culture)are people who mainly dress in black and wear stark black and white make-up to make themselves look more mysterious and dark (kinda goes with the theme/the person's interests). They usually associate with Gothic Rock music, but also have interests in Wicca, Pagan etc. There are types of goth whether you like it or not, Traditional/classic, Modern, Romantic, Net (a trivial one)etc. It obviously depends on your interests and gothic is a way of expressing yourself, you can be your own person and 'customize' gothic to suit yourself.It IS label that others may call you if you associate with the examples above, you should not be offened by it, it is NOT an insult, neither does it mean alot so let them say it. You are You essentially, I wouldn't ever try to live up to a label.

Music: Siters of Mercy, Bauhaus, The 69 Eyes, HIM (well, I like them anyway) these are the most popular, but it depends on individual style. I personally hate Cradle of Filth, just not my thing. *this does not for a moment think that you should immediatley dump those Old Good Charlotte or Greeday, or whatever other music OUTSIDE the gothic rock catergory it is you like also. 'The Rasmus are not goth'-a typical 'more goth than thou' comment, who cares if they are or are not, they good musicians, that's all that matters really. Plus theire lyrics are dark and myserious and I like them. Interests: art (creative), literature (gothic, eg: Woman in White, Dracula, MUSIC, pagan, wicca, sewing etc...

Author: \gothSorrow\goth http://goth.urbanup.com/1041163
128. (goth) (17↑, 16↓)
Goth is a subculture existing both on and offline. It consists of people of all ages, nationalities, races, religions, and sexualities. Inside the subculture a many differant categories some of the main ones I list below. Though no one is completely in just one category. Baby Goth - Typically a [newbie] to the gothic subculture. These goths tend to believe the only way to be goth is with black lips, black nails, a paper white face, and excessive eye liner. Glitter Goth - The more colorfull side of the subculture. Glitter Goths are known for their bright colors and hair extensions. Glitter goths are typically the life of any party. Popular glitter goth colors are bright yellow, electric blue, and hot pink. Classical Goth - These Goths enjoy dressing up in medieval clothing. These goths are especially known for their sewing skills. Blue Jean Goth - This is the low budjet goth. The majority of this goths closet consists of jeans and t-shirts. These goths can get very inventive in their clothing alterations. There are many more but I think I'll stop here. Extra trivia: Popular music for goths: gothic, new age, techno, hard rock, metal Popular colors: black, dark reds, dark blues, silver, white.

Wow\! Look at all the glitter goths\! That baby goth has watched the crow too many times.

129. (Goth) (17↑, 16↓)
Germanic tribe that invaded provinces of the crumbling Roman Empire. Influenced much architecture around Europe, as well as clothing, such as monks' robes, undertakers' dress etc. Now a tag given to followers of alternative music such as Dimmu Borgir and Opeth, or sometimes to the fools that like Limp Bizkit and Good Charlotte. In St Helens, often called "greggors", "geggers", "goffers" or "smelly, sweaty goffs". Usually intelligent, creative people, who are prepared to work for their future, are not scared to stand out, and do not have sex with their mothers.

"Look at that gothic architecture." "Eugh\! Goffs?\!? Where? Fuckin' smelly Goff\!"

130. (goth) (17↑, 16↓)
1. A member of an ancient Germanic tribe. 2. (obs.) A member of the Gothic subculture; in the late 1970's, the media declared Bauhaus and Siouxsie and the Banshees to have a "gothic" sound, after Gothic literature. Gothic literature was, incidentally, named after Gothic architecture, which was named after the Gothic tribe, as an insult, to imply that it was barbaric. The original goths from the late 70's had a sardonic sense of humour above all else. They often wore dark clothing, as goth was an offshoot of punk. In the early 80's, Second Wave Goth began with bands like the Sisters of Mercy. This is possibly when goth acquired the reputation of being more sullen. At some unknown date, Goth began degenerating. It was rather like cancer, wherein there was part of the subculture still functioning and alive, but more and more of it was becoming sick and dying. Though some bands with a gothic sound still exist, a new name for the genre is sorely in need of creation. Honestly, those few true goths left need to give up the ghost and come up with a new subculture for themselves. 3. A misnomer for a follower of bands such as Marilyn Manson, Tool, Korn, Slipnot, etc. Generally, bands like these were part of the reason why "goths" kept seeming whinier and whinier. Now not only are there bands trying to portray themselves as goth when goth is effectively dead, but now mass marketing has decided to reshape the subculture to cater to a very lucrative demographic: rebellious teenagers of middle- to upper-class families.

Why is it that there are no more flappers or beats, yet there's a plethora of "hippies," "punks," and "goths"? The beats and the flappers probably just knew when to give up and move on.

131. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
Goth and Emo are basically the same thing. There are the posers and the real ones. The posers will completely conform to the stereotype because they think it is cool. They will dress in a fashion of what they see depicted on the internet. The real ones will just create their own style because they don't like conformism. They see beauty in the darker side of life. What is a rose without thorns?

Real Goth/Emo: That kids a poser Other Real Goth/Emo: yeah. He's just doing it because he thinks it is cool

Author: xxThatDudexx http://goth.urbanup.com/6234505
132. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
A completely misunderstood fashion genre. It is thought to be about "no one understanding", wearing all black and a lot of make up. Goth (the fashion genre) originally was based on death. It's followers found death fasinating which is why they wear all black. They also add many skull and cross accessories (and other death-related items). Goths are the opposite of the "Emo" fashion genre, the goths being calm and the emos being ridiculously flamboyant.

Person A: Have you ever seen a real goth? Person B: No, I've only seen smelly kids wearing all black and not showering.

Author: RegretedDreams http://goth.urbanup.com/6231770
133. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
Goths are no different than anyone else. We just see things for what they really are. We may look different or act different but were all the same on the inside...kinda. Goths DO NOT cut themselves, thats depression. And as a last bit of information, Goths arent fake. Were more legit than any mainstream prik you know

Mainstream dickhead: "eww look at that goth piece of shit. il bet he cuts him self and is gay" Goth kid proceeds with kicking Mainstream dickhead's ass and says "Here's 3 things to remember about Goths; 1. we all dont cut ourselves 2. we arent as frail and homosexual as you think and 3. i wont fuck with you but if you fuck with me il be your worst nightmare

Author: Unknownsavior http://goth.urbanup.com/6143597
134. (goth) (0↑, 0↓)
A lifestyle of walking the boundary between darkness and light. True goths love being alive and accept the challenges of being alive. They are often very deep thinkers, creative artists, and great friends. At some point in their life, a true goth has been in some way scarred. Whatever event or events have altered this person, it has only made them stronger. Posers will say their life sucks for the smallest, most insignificant reasons, solely for the sake of attention. A true goth has experienced pain of the heart and bears the scar, but they can further enjoy life because their pain is behind them. I am proud to wear the scars of my past and have found healing through my arts and the ones I love. The ache is still there, but through expressing my true self I have been able to let go of the hurt. I am a goth and I love my life. I have torn down my walls. I'm not ready to die. I will not change until I have hurt someone. I will always be on the line of light and dark. And when my time comes to pass on, I will remain in the hearts of those who loved me.

We are the spirit of true goth.

135. (Goth) (1↑, 1↓)
Not necessarily people who are Satanic, or evil. But we like to play up that image. Because it scares you. And that's funny. There are sub-divisions of the Goth style, and they're as varied as... A very varied thing. My own involves wearing bits of chainmail, gauntlets, and occassionally a helmet, and moshing my face off to the likes of Tyr, Amon Amarth and Turisas... Whereas my friend wanders around with a respirator on, a massive pair of black trousers with bright piping, and goggles... In my opinion, skulls are the name of the game... But that opinion changes from goth to goth. Plus we have the hottest girls.

I know... Hold my helmet. Gunna give her some of the Battelgoth charm.

Author: F4lseP0sitive http://goth.urbanup.com/5832249
136. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
What happens when an emo and a ninja breed.

See freakingnews.com/Goth-Celebrities-Pictures--1955.asp

137. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
Goth is a culture where the people embrace the darker side of life, as well as the lighter side. Although there are many types of Goths, it is very common for a Goth to fit into more than one of these 'groups'. Goth's, basically, like to be different and stand out from the crowd. There's Goth music, and not-Goth music. To be Goth, you don't JUST have to listen to Goth music and nothing else, you can listen to whatever the hell you want. Even though some of us might look a little strange, once you actually get to know some of us, we could be the nicest people you ever come across. So next time you see a Goth, think about who they are, not who they come across as.

Kid 1: Look at that weird [goth] kid\! Kid 2: Eww they're so weird, let's throw my milkshake at him\! Kid 3: No\! Wait, you don't know what they're really like\! They could be really nice\! Kid 1: I guess you have a point there... Kid 2: Maybe we could make friends with him\!

Author: The_Different_Girl\@vf.com http://goth.urbanup.com/5658929
138. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
State of mind, with no regret of being ones own person. One who doesn't strive to be a clone of everyone else. Someone with there own mind set, not willing to change a belief because of anyone but themselves. They don't go out of there way to become someones friend but is a good one if u know one. Not always the nicest, can become pissed off very easily if annoyed but an ignorant asshole.

Foamy-"[Goth] is not a fashion statement just like punk." Person 1-"Dude that kid is [Goth]." Person 2-"No that kid is emo, [Goth]s can't just go buy a couple things at Hot Topic and be a [Goth]." Person 1-"Oh yeah, well that make sense."

139. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
One who feels Halloween is everyday, loves any kind of music with dark lyrics and a beat that is appealing to their unique self, most likely express themselves artistically, often are nocturnal, decorate with darker things such as: dragons, dark fairies, skulls, horror movie figurines, music and movie posters, dark angels, and so on. They excel in things like writing, painting, drawing, theater, clothes making, ect. Clothing may vary, but black and silver seem to be what they commonly wear. They're open minded and not afraid of being themselves.

Famous goths include,[Vampira], [Bella Legosi], [Elvira], [Edgar Allan Poe], [Stephen King], [The Munsters], [The Addams Family], [Brandon Lee] as [The Crow], [Ozzy], [Jack Skelinton], [The Bride of Frankenstien], and so on.

140. (Goth) (1↑, 1↓)
A “Goth” is a member of a southern Scandinavian tribe originating from “Gotaland”, an island off the coast of modern-day Sweden. Famous for their wandering emigration, which coursed through eastern Europe over several generations, they ultimately settled in various parts of the Western Roman Empire. The two main branches were the “Ostrogoths”, who settled primarily in the Italian peninsula and in regions north thereof, and the “Visigoths”, who ultimately controlled much of the Iberian peninsula. Many children who possess poor posture, emotional frailty, lack of vigor, strength, or endurance, sheepishness, melodramatic sensitivity, nearly pathological conformity to others' manner of dress and hairstyles, and absolutely pathological self-hatred toward their own personal, natural individuality and self-image erroneously use the term “goth” to describe themselves. In reality, not a more antithetical term could have been chosen. Goths did not spend two hours in the morning getting their bangs “just right”, because hair obscuring the vision of one eye would make archery and swordplay far less effective. While a twenty-something “goth” quietly spends a gargantuan amount of time painting his nails and scouring thrift stores for girls clothing in the 21st century (HOMO\!), a twenty-something Goth would have been calling conventions between other chieftains, devising logistical and tactical plans against a common enemy (COOL).

[Goth] [goth] [Gothic] [gothic]

Author: Aharon The First http://goth.urbanup.com/4995997
141. (Goth) (1↑, 1↓)
1.a person who dressed in black,will go creeping when the normal folk are sleeping, hates life, wears boots (never sandals\!) who lights the room with candles, who pretends to be a vampire(like in stories round the campfire)(they'll suck your "bloody froth"), they have caskets, worship peter murphey and are best at imitating lestat and listen to the cure 2. a crazy person who drinks peoples blood (also known as a [vampire])

i'd be thinner, i'd be taller, go clubbing in my collar, with skin pale as a moth, dressed in black i'd go creepin when the normal folk are sleeping if i only were a goth -thou shalt not "If i Only Were A Goth"

Author: Gothic Expert http://goth.urbanup.com/4877103
142. (goth) (0↑, 0↓)
people who walk to the beat of a different drum. the kind of person also known as a freak or weirdo in high schools. they don't dress in only black, they wear what they feel comfortable in each may be a hot pink shirt and blue jeans, the wear thing out of the ordinary that most probly wouldn't cuz they stand out. the aren't all satanic, they believe in what they want may it be in god through Christianity, Judaism, or islam, or they are pagans.

goth people are different from the norm. people who do what they want to because its what they want to do not because everyone else is doing it

Author: Goth Mom 1990 http://goth.urbanup.com/4713232
143. (goth) (0↑, 0↓)
A vampiric term for some one who rejects commercialism. They are neither christian nor satanic. They crave power and are powerful, egoistic, usually quiet. They don't show off. They are susceptible to getting angry at fads and don't agree with marketed membership.

He doesn't watch TV he might be GOTH.

144. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
1. People who conform into non conformist groups.

[conform] [non conformist] [goth]

145. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
Genre of music which has evolved into a stereotypical dress style. People often labeled as goth are infact just rejects from other social groups, real goths listen to darkwave, post-punk, proper goth rock, and a slew of other dark genres. Fake goths listen to metal/screamo. Real goths wear anything they want, fake goths wear black because its "goth". Real goths have friends from all backgrounds, social groups etc, fake goths limit themselves to other humiliatingly fake goths.

Normal guy: So you listen to screamo metal huh? Goth: No I listen to darkwave. Normal guy: That like screamo or something huh? Goth: No its like synth-pop with dark lyrics.

146. (Goth) (0↑, 0↓)
Fools bent to pay alot for an old look.

Well Goths

147. (Goth) (5↑, 5↓)
People who are more for the less popular culture. They usually dress, but not restricted to, in black and baggy-ass pants covered in 100 pounds of chains, belts, straps and studs. They can dress in multicolored clothing and even have multicolored hair. They listen to underground (although very popular in the subculture) industrial groups or other electronic artists and metal. They have an obsession with gas masks, vinyl, goggles and wacky hair. Usually found at [rave] parties, [vampirefreaks], and horror festivals. Goths usually consist of pale white people, Germans, Pseudo-Germans, very few black chicks, and Japenese people. You'll never see an Indian or Afgan goth person EVAR. I guarentee you EVERY goth loves Invader Zim, The Nightmare Before Christmas, and any other Tim Burton movies that star Johnny Depp. The emo and scene subculture derives their fashion from Goth fashion.

Goth kids would suck Jack Skellington's rotted cock if he were real. Since they don't like the norm, they'll act as if they like the taste of his rotted dong.

Author: Stay Gold Ponyboy http://goth.urbanup.com/4218546
148. (Goth) (1↑, 1↓)
People who associate themselves or often get associated with the so-called "gothic" movement, a musical style that evolved out of british post-punk and US punk, but which is now really a collection of very diversified, "darker" styles of more electronic or more guitar-ridden music. In "goth" clubs, original "gothic rock" styles got mixed with industrial/EBM music, New Wave and some alternative styles since the late 80ies. In the mid-90ies, labels and magazines promoted some so-called "gothic metal" and "industrial metal" bands out of commercial reasons, and because there were certain parallels in look and imagery of these bands to the gothic scene. In these Days, bands like Paradise Lost or Type o Negative, which were really "softer", sometimes romantic heavy metal bands were massively hyped, leading to newbies back then ignoring the original styles of the movement for those acts. In the Noughties, the metal trend waned and was replaced by another new trend towards a softer, melody-orientated form of EBM: "Future Pop" played by groups like VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk. Additionally, very techno-orientated noise music by bands like Combichrist was getting heavy rotation in the clubs. Both styles are more accessible and easier to consume than former styles and tend to more and more replace all other styles of music associated with gothic scene in the club playlists, which leads to conflicts between "purists" and - usually somewhat younger - fans of the new style. Actually, there is no proper definition of a special attitude, behaviour or quality of "goth" people. It's just the crowd which is into certain branches of the musical styles associated with goth, which is more or less openly involved in the visuals by dressing up sometimes or all the time in "gothic styles" and which is seen frequently in the nightclubs, at festivals and concerts. So all these narcisstic morons around here, trying to describe goths (i.e. themselves) as especially intelligent, more artistic or non-conformist as the rest are really just indulging themselves in pathetic attempts to talk others into sharing their own deluded self-perception. If there is a positive attribute you can quite rightfully associate to goth, it should be an overall disinterest in open violence compared to "normal" club/party scenes, but there is usually a lot of behind-the-back bitching going on to compensate for that. Additionally, goth scene doesn't seem to take the same moronic pride in open homophobia as a lot of other poseur scenes, that's why some sexual deviants, like transsexuals and others may experience less open hate and aggression there. But they won't necessarily be easily integrated or get much attention in goth scene. Besides that, you might easily find a lot of different typical "goth" characters in the scenes, it's not really easy to find a common denominator for those people. Some are more nerdy types, some typical high-school loners, others are very vain and dandy-like, a lot of introverted, sometimes pretty boring fellas, some are more funny than you'd think at first, some (especially the EBM crowd) are pretty down-to-earth, hard-working, almost stolid types, a lot of very bitchy, moody girls. Nowadays, some of this 00's techno/cyber crowd seems to be some lukewarm version of the urban hipster, without the intellectualism and the good taste but full of the deeply self-centered meaninglessness and a "consumerist" attitude towards culture. Most of the definitions of the people around here who dislike goth and are carefully constructing a cherished prejudice about goth people for themselves, center on some perception of the goths as being the real conformists, maintaining individuality but dressing up and behaving all the same. This is essentially not a very individualistic and unique perception, as it has been ripped off the popular "South Park" series, where the Cure-loving creators of the show were really quite tongue-in-cheek about the mockery. But it has been taken drop-dead serious by many and has since repeatedly been barked at the goth crowd as some kind of eternal truth revealed by haters all over the net. IT'S NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUALITY, STUPID\! If you're into this style, you're full of passion for it. It's about a conglomerate of - for you - really fascinating music and styles (and admittedly a lot of stupid ones, too), you are so commited to, you just want to be a part of it, showing it just the same as you would show your wedding ring or a tattoo with the name of your lover. There is no problem with that fixed "goth" identity, because it's really up to yourself how you interpret it and fill it with life. You don't just do this do be AGAINST this or that, society, conformists or whatever, although you may personally "use" the style in that sense. It's much more a positive stance towards the styles of the scene that interest you and which you are individually contributing to by dressing up, making music, networking and so on. Nobody will EVER pay attention to you in this scene, if you are devoid of any surprises as a person and cling to some stereotypical behaviour you may associate with "being goth". That's not the way...

Moron: Hey, you think you're individualistic? HA\! I've seen through you goth fags. You all are wearing black clothes like a uniform. Look at my completely average clothes and my boring face. THAT'S a sign of non-conformity. HA\! Goth: I conform to things that are important to me. At least I HAVE something that's important to me, you know? Besides, I LOVE uniforms...

Author: Bobby Sunshine http://goth.urbanup.com/4154140
149. (Goth) (2↑, 2↓)
Apparently, I'm a goth. One shouldn't call themselves a goth, but after most of the people you know start to call you it, it just seems to fit. Goths vary greatly. We can be really nice people, or very nasty people. We are usually artistic or bright, but keep very quiet. We generally keep to ourselves, and don't cause trouble. However, a Goth can be dangerous, as a lot of hate can be built up for a long time. Satanism, wearing black, and any other stereotypical image is false. A goth does what he or she wants to. A poser is simply someone who wants to be a goth. If you're a goth, you're a goth. It's not something to work towards. And it's not up to you (or me) to judge who is a poser and who isn't. A goth is usually very dark and hates a lot of things. The mind of a goth is complex and beautiful, but not a very nice place. A goth who wears nothing but black is a goth who wears nothing but black. This doesn't make them a goth. It doesn't make them a poser. As long as it's not anything blindingly happy or stupidly depressing, goth's could listen to anything. [Death Metal], [Nu Metal], [Gothic Metal], [Classical], [Gothic Rock], [even Rock]. A true goth is defined by state of mind. A goth is hateful and chooses to be. But they do not choose to be a goth. DO NOT confuse goth with [emo]. They are two very different things. Emo's are glorified people who have strong emotional tendancies. Goths are in control, relaxed and are secure.

Poser: "I wear black the whole time and I love it\!\!\!\! And this music is soo cool\!\! I love it all\!\! I'm such a good goth, see? I do everything right." True Goth: "No, I don't cut myself. Why would I? The human body is to be respected, why damage yourself in any way? And talk to me like that again and I'll knock you out."

150. (goth) (2↑, 2↓)
A lifestyle choice. You can't really define a 'goth' because every one them is different. 'Goths' don't think they are better than everyone else. They simply make a choice to dress, act, and speak how they please. Goths are just like the rest of the world. They are entitled to their own views, and musical tastes also, which tend to be darker, and follow the trends of the 'post-punk' era. If people would get over their misconceptions, and stop saying things like "goths are fake, they should go die, and OmGzZz u r a pozerr bitchh\!," and actually have an open mind, you would see that their lifestyle does not make them so different from you, and that they could care less about what you think, because they are going to live their life the way they want regardless of your ratty opinions.

Hater: OMFG UR A GAWTH?\! GO FCKING DIE\! GAWTHS SUCK\! Goth: -blinks- Okay then. Have a nice day. -walks away-

151. (goth) (1↑, 1↓)
the people who stand out and have their own styles and are usually rejected out of society. goths are not freaks, suicidle, or scary they are REAL people. most are not posers. although i know this i do not know weather they give a shit about their label or not. i personally think labels are stupid and immature.

Prep: Oh my god what a freak. Shes like a goth. Prep 2: She looks scary lets leave. She might pull a knife on us or something.

152. (goth) (2↑, 2↓)
Awsome kick ass human being a little diffrent but totaly rad n does not give a fuck about u mean cunts

dam that henry lad is awsome... his the awsomest goth ever

153. (Goth) (2↑, 2↓)
Most people think that they know what a goth is, but really they do not. People usually think that goths are depressed and suicidal, always wear black, have no friends, and are always gay/bi. This is not the case at all. Most goths are not depressed and suicidal; most people you see like this are posers. Note that I say most, not all. Some goths are like this, but not the majority like people think. Also, although most goths do usually wear black, some do not even like the colour and prefer brighter colours. Goths do not have no friends, they just have enough sense to realize that popularity is not the most important thing in life. Furthermore, goths are not always gay/bi. The reason for this rumour is probably because goths are much more open-minded than many other people, and they usually regard both sexes as equal. Most of the “goths” people see are actually posers. Also, most people don’t know what goth music actually is. Slipknot, Korn and other bands posers listen to are not goth. Neither is Marilyn Manson. Some examples of actual goth bands are Bauhaus and Switchblade Symphony. So if a goth isn’t all these things, what are goths? Well goths are open-minded people, often with a dark appeal. There are many different types of goth, and all have their own individual style. Goths are also very creative and often become writers, poets or artists.

Goths are not the posers you see outside Hot Topic, they are open-minded, creative people who make great friends.

Author: EvilDarkMonster http://goth.urbanup.com/2483282
154. (Goth) (3↑, 3↓)
GOTHS : It is basically undefinable b'coz "GOTH" means different things 2 each followers. It is up 2 the individual to define wad GOTH is for themselves. As for me, Goth has the blood of a punk. It then survive on as its own subculture. But some says that goths originated in the medieval age... About the dressings. Wearing all black does not mean u're goth. Because goths loves to be unique & be different from the others. They do not care what people gonna say about em' because they know that they've got their own originality not like those people who loves common things & be the same as the others...The norm people would dress up the same & follows the trend but goths does not envy popularity... & a goth does not like to dress up the same as the other goths do... Being a goth is interesting. It does not matter what religion are u because Goth is a CULTURE & NOT A RELIGION\! In music wise, it also depends on which type of goth music u like to listen to... eg. Goth rock, ethareal, darkambient etc... As for me, i preferred on listening 2 ethareal which is most characterized by saprano female vocls combined with almost classical or folk type instrumentation which creates a surreal, angelic or love spiral downwards. Ethareal music often contains opera-like vocals... Ethareal is a subdivision in itself, however it is grouped towards the darkwave end rather than the gothic rock end...

If u people think that u're goths, think\!\!\! "Are u goth enough?\!"

155. (goth) (2↑, 2↓)
Goth origonally was a term used to describe that of architecture, clothing, music, and culture from the Gothic Era, a sub-devision of the Mideval Era. Goth is now percieved as a labeled group of kids who dress in black, write depressive poetry, and hate the world. However, this is untrue. Goths are generally not depressive. They dress however they like, and believe that nobody is here for a reason. They believe in just living, and they see no point in popularity. Being goth is all about individuality, and you do not have to dress a certain way to be a goth. They generally listen to classical, industrial, metal, or soft rock. But that is not to say they have to listen to these forms of music.

1] A goth cathedral; a gothic cathedral. 2] S/he is listening to goth music.

Author: 99luftbalons http://goth.urbanup.com/2445778
156. (goth) (13↑, 13↓)
First, I read someone thought Satanism was a religion, I'd like to correct that. It's a philosophy. Luciferism is a religion. Okay. What's a goth ? If you like Shakespeare, Oscar Wilde, German expressionism's movies (and other horror movies) and [Tim Burton] among other things, you probably are a goth. If you're constantly thinking about [death], and have a romantic mind at the same time, then you might be a goth. If you listen to Marilyn Manson and think that makes you a goth, you definitely aren't one \! If you [can't express your feelings] easily, I think you're close to goths. If you think wearing [black] makes you a goth, you're not completely wrong, but not completely right either. That's how I see it from here. So it's more of a way of thinking than a way of dressing or a way of acting. Either you have the spirit or you don't. On the other hand, I might be wrong as well. :=)

Watch [Sleepy Hollow] or [The Nightmare before Christmas], that will give you a good example of how a goth thinks.

157. (goth) (11↑, 11↓)
there is no defintion for this because, every person is different, 1 "goth" might be depressed, another "goth" might be happy, [happy goth] they are all different. Goths arent bad people. so all u people who think they are stupid-ass morbid highschool dropouts they arent. your math teacher could/was goth, who knows, probably wasnt tho ^_^

prep: "are you a morbid depressed goth?" goth1: "yes" Prep: "r u a depressed goth?" goth2: "no" Prep: "i thought all goths were depressed..." goth2: "no that was just one goth person" prep: "oh now me am smarter den b4\!\!\!" goth2: "yeah, sure, k, whatever..."

Author: Gothic-Trash-666 http://goth.urbanup.com/1866197
158. (goth) (2↑, 2↓)
i think that people are really unfair to goths because they judge them and say well if your a goth then you must cut yourself and like black everything, thats not true\!\!\! it is very annoying that the same people who say they never sterio type probably sterio type goths and emo all the time. goths and emo's get beaten up everyday just for being who they are and expressing themselves\!

example- ME\!\! i dont cut myself i dont wear black all the time every single day but sometimes whe i do strangers come up to me in the street and call me a goth\!

159. (Goth) (12↑, 12↓)
Goths, despite what one person has said on urbandictionary, are NOT suicidal and they certainly do not go off and kill someone because they are different. Although some may go off the deep end and slit their wrists(this is rare) or commit suicide, the majority are friendly and harmless. They are very creative and are EXCELLENT poets and writers. I am a tomboy/goth, and am a very creative young lady, if I do say so myself. I love Linkin Park and Ozzy Osbourne, but am not stupid enough to go and commit suicide simply because my two favorite bands might sing about it once in a while. It makes me sick how people just go and assume that goths are evil, satan worshipping demons who have no considersation for others and will get no where in life. While I believe everyone is entitled to their opinions, acting like a brainless fool about it just makes me so enraged.

The person "Me" who wrote the example of a goth is dead on correct. Bravo\!

Author: psychic child http://goth.urbanup.com/1429397
160. (goth) (6↑, 6↓)
In reference to the subculture; A term that has been thrown around so much these days, who knows what it actually means. I know that, it seems to be defined by the music you listen to... which I think, personally, is ridiculous. Even some of the the open minded people who say they are goth assume that all fans of slipknot and manson are posers, and think that they're badass because they listen to that music. Well, here's a newsflash- goths can wear tons of different styles of clothes and listen to different styles of music. Just because someone listens to Slipknot or Marilyn Manson (can't defend linkin park, though...) doesn't mean they are poser. There are a lot of types of goths, and suggesting music defines the person is just stupid and close-minded. So, instead of listening to all these people saying "goths are depressed, suicidal satanists (which, btw, isnt the evil religion people make it out to be o.O)" ALONG with "all people who like slipknot and manson are posers who think theyre goths and are just trying to be 'cool'", why don't you listen to me and the other people with brains out there who know that "goth" doesn't rely on music or religion or anything like that. (shortened version: a subculture that ISN'T just about wearing black nail polish and listening to certain music and its hard to define it, because theyre all so different.)

Goths are not all alike, and music doesn't make the goth.

161. (goth) (20↑, 20↓)
Goths are people who tend to look to the past to deal with the present in the future. They usually wear older style clothing such as dresses, though not just in black, contrary to popular belief and stereotype. They generally don't wear all the spikes that [mainstream] images would depict, although that doesn't mean that they don't at all. Goths look at life and see darkness. The difference between the mainstream image of goth and actual goth is that goths look to the darkness and see beauty. They see [suffering], and they embrace it. Being a goth does not instantly include or exclude one from a [religion]. There is nothing in [Christianity] that says "thou shall not accept goths." Rather, this is a [prejudice] placed by [society]. Many goths learn to live with this, and simply move on. Goths DO smile and DO laugh, just not at the things at which a [normal] human being would laugh or smile at. Goths are not by definition sons of [Satan] or tools of [evil]. Those two are [prejudices]. While there are goths that worship Satan, there are also goths that are god-fearing Christians. Goths can usually be characterized by [reserved] [mannerisms], a byproduct of their [insular] and [instrospective] nature, dark music such as [death metal], [gothic metal], [black metal], [trash metal], or even [heavy metal], as well as a usual creative thread.

Contrary to popular belief, goths can be pleasant people to be around, and they won't try to recruit you into an army of darkness.

Author: Twice Scorned http://goth.urbanup.com/670834
162. (Goth) (13↑, 13↓)
1. One of many ancient Teutonic tribes originating in what is now Germany. 2. One of the many tribes of barbarians overrunning the Roman Empire during the 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries A.D.

The Ostrogoths settled in what was Roman Italia, while the Visigoths eventually settled down on the Iberian peninsula.

163. (goth) (10↑, 10↓)
Just another label that people conform to for either their own personal enjoyment or to be oh-so-cool. I don't know why people just can't be themselves without a slew of labels, but whatever rows your boat. People who strive to be gothic by acting dark and dressing in black and pissing and moaning about life and how much of an outcast they are are assholes and should be shot. Repeatedly. If you are another of those sad gothic wannabes bitching about conformists, maybe you should think about all the contradictions spewing out of your mouth as you ARE CONFORMING TO A LABEL. For the goths who are goths for their personal enjoyment... I never liked labels and never will but cheers.

The gothic wannabe cried, "Hot Topic is closed\! Someone shoot me\!" So I did and spared the world of her bitching. Then I ate her.

164. (goth) (0↑, 1↓)
a goth is a person who looks at life and makes the best of it but and they say heck with every one else they hate the term goth in fact they hate labels at all... if your not a faker they are not emo and if you call them emo they will probabley go off on you their is a big diff. in goths and the emo freaks emo were skinny jeans and are upsesed with depression goths where flair jeans and are whatever they want to be and dont let a person control them they could care less about popularity and HATE chavs i am a goth and feal i am talking for the most of them unless you are a faker then u belong in the deepest darkest pits of hell

man..i love the goths their all so sweet

165. (goth) (1↑, 2↓)
1. a loser who gets nowhere in life. 2. someone who is homosexual

goths usualy end up flipping burgers by the end of highschool.

166. (goth) (0↑, 1↓)
thank u definition \#1. goths don't wear all black. they wear whatever the fuck they want. being goth is basicly just stating your opinion all the time(even if it gets u in a shitload of trouble)

vince is such a goth

167. (Goth) (4↑, 5↓)
Attention seekers who can't come up with their own name so they stole "Goth" from a Germanic Tribe because they are so un creative. Try to look different, but they actually just end up looking like idiots. Despised by many, they tend to make definitions of themselves on urban dictionary to defend themselves.

Wannabe: Look at what i'm wearing\! i'm so different\!I'm such a goth\! Normal Person: Wow..no one really cares wether your different or not Wannabe: Oh..i guess i'll go back to my room and cry because i suck so bad.

168. (GOTH) (3↑, 4↓)
I am "goth" and frankly quite sick of being called [emo] cuz i wear black, i dont consider myself goth but thats what everyone who isn't a freshy prick calls me (freshies call me emo). I listen to all kinds of music, as a musician myself its all about the lyrical content. I wear what i wear cuz its comfortable, not because it scares people. I am not depressed, in fact 90% of my life i am smiling. If your not "goth" we dont give a shit. Its like when people ask us "why get piercings or tattoos" we dont care if you dont have them, so why should you care if we do? We are definitely not all suicidal, i fucking love me life and am quite happy where i am. Yes we all "conform" as in wear black and so on but we also try to be different from each other. Most of us are quite talented in some form of the arts (writing, music, drawing ETC.) We leave you alone you should leave us alone. JUST BECAUSE WE WEAR BLACK DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE EMO. I totally agree with the top definition in its saying "manson is not goth" its true he's just weird. i hate people assuming cuz i wear black i love manson or stuff like that. Korn is not goth, Slipknot is not goth. Anyway the point is really we are just people too, so what if we dont look the same as you, we dont give you shit for it, so dont give us shit for it.

most "goths" dont call them self "goth" any one who calls them self goth is normally trying to fit in some where. a true "goth" (or person of alternative lifestyle as i prefer to be called) hates being labeled and the idea of labels

Author: blade mathews 13 http://goth.urbanup.com/3285826
169. (Goth) (0↑, 1↓)
Many definitions have been given that are accurate, but the meaning of the word 'Goth' is changing. For example in relation to 'Gothic' music, a lot of metal bands are now surfacing that are gothic-fusion or gothic inspired, and conform to some stereotypes of goth, but also do many different things in regards to sound or appearance.

Draconian is a gothic-doom metal band. They sound slow, and their riffs and soud is very dissonant and sorrowful. Trail of tears is an operatic-gothic metal band, that are similar to bands like Nightwish, except they make use of [Blast beats] and screaming male vocals. Also the sorrowful riffs become present.

170. (goth) (4↑, 5↓)
A Goth Ain't Some Suicidle AssHole, That's A Scene Kid,Or Emo. Goth's A State Of Mind, However They're Often Seen In Leather etc. Music... Well We Listen To Allsorts- Manson Is Okay, But Is Sorta Emo/Mosher. Stuff Like VNV Nation, Paradise Lost And Such Are Goth... But We Listen To Heavy Metal, Cock Rock And Sometimes Rap\! There's Like, 3 Main Type Of Goth, Cyber Goth, Victorian Goth, And Your Average, Day-To-Day Goth. Cyber Goth- Someone Who Wears All The High Tech Stuff, Like Eye Goggles. Victorian Goth- People Who Wear Stuff From 1800's And Goth Goth- Leather Sometimes, Or A Long Coat. Often Black Trousers...Personally I Wear PVC Trenchcoat And PVC Trousers...And Platform Boots. Most Of Us Are Really Fun Loving, SO Don't Dis Yeah?

Ya Mam On A Friday Night... Shes a Propper Slutty Goth

171. (Goth) (1↑, 2↓)
Goth: just another one of those words people stereotypically use as an insult. Chav: Just another one of those stereotypical words we use. -Note- The are just the urban defenitions, the word goth has more definitions (example: gothic cathedral etc.) ..Not too sure if the word chav has more than one meaning

Some person: "Gothic\!\!" Target person: "WTF?\! Oh, it's a Chav, just keep on walking"

Author: Easy definition http://goth.urbanup.com/2878183
172. (goth) (1↑, 2↓)
Really and truely a goth is someone who wants to be different and not follow the crowd..and it doesn't matter if someone looks at you because you look different and have on dark eyeliner and are listening to [deathstar asembly]....but then agian goths don't really like to call themselves goths because that's not what we really are we are followers on the night....and to clear things up [Vampire goths] really don't like to drink blood and are usually not into Satanism I'm a wiccan....I do get blood cravings but they usually go away after a little while...

"Marilyn manson is goth weither you like to believe it or not he is different just like the rest of us....

173. (goth) (0↑, 1↓)
the original goths of the 1700's took their look out of gothic novels, which focused on the darker side of human nature and were heavily infused with romance. femme fatales and vampires are the grandparents of modern goth. dark eyes, lips and hair are mixed with dark, usually black clothing, and plenty of romantic floaty, ruffly skirts and sleeves. today's goth is purely fake and way too focused on death.

real goths wear all black and maybe some deep red they are not obsessed with death and suicide they see the real flaws in life they are big romatics

174. (goth) (1↑, 2↓)
Goth is usualy Just a Darker Form of Punk, it is a comomon Misconception that All "Goths" are Devil Worshiping Seuacidals, however the Opposit is More Common, a Goth is Likely to be A Well Educated Christian/Catholc. Furthermore, You are not a Goth if you Simply Dress in Black, That is Just Trendy and Un-imagnative, a Goth is Meerly a Person Who Chooses to Dress Diffrently as they are Intelagent enough to Realise that our Cloths do not Matter, they Do Not Dress to Fit in as some Bistanders may Think, they are Making a Statment, we are what we are.

a goth will Think about Those things that Others will not Dare Dream of

175. (Goth) (0↑, 1↓)
It's not about the just clothing. It's also not just about the music.

Non-Goth: You listen to Bullet For My Valentine. How can you be goth? Goth: Simple. It's not about the just clothing or the music.

176. (goth) (5↑, 6↓)
a group of people who see things from a unique point of veiw. often outcast from society at an early age for some stupid reason kids think of in the schoolyard. these 'outcasts' usaully come together to find common ground with each other and become good frinds. they have a laugh the whole time and enjoy life more than most people. their outside look on the people who try to be popular allow them to see the pointlessness of teenage society. goths cannot be defined by what they wear and how they act around the 'popular' as looks can be decieving. most goths do not even wear gothic cloths as popularised on tv. goths understand life better than most people and are better off for being that way.

''goth life?'' ''a better life''

177. (goth) (8↑, 9↓)
Goths....Goths are just normal everyday people that are strong willed, creative and dress in wateva they want 2, showin tat this is who they are and noone can change them. Goths are NOT suicidal...thats totally wrong, if u think that and u should realise that ur an idiot. Townies (bogans) are the ones who pick on us as we walk down the street or jst anywhere, thinkin theyre better than us is just plain stupidity, noone should think that they are better than another person just because tat person wears black nd listens to GOOD music. Goths are NOT satanists Goths dont have 2 wear all black Goths are NOT depressed Goths DONT care that people think they are freaks...even though we're NOT freaks To those who think we are freaks GROW UP\! oh and also look at yourself and hear how stupid u sound TRYING 2 annoy us and TRYING to make us feel bad.....Since we really dont give a flying fuck wat you pathetic mindless retards think

i walk into a shop Bogan1:oooooo goth boy..wants 2 kill himself Bogan2:Wat a freak Me:(sarcasticaly) oooo watch out i might kill u\! (not really caring wat the stupid low fuckwit imbreds say walk off and feel good im not like them)

Author: righteous bastard http://goth.urbanup.com/1676538
178. (Goth) (13↑, 14↓)
Someone who participates in the Goth Subculture - Someone who likes Goth Rock.

That Goth is listening to Bauhaus. :o

179. (goth) (11↑, 12↓)
A person who reads literature, listens to goth-y music, watches goth-y entertainment, and generally wears dark colours, though some are known for their bright neon colours. A lot of 'goths' shop at Hot Topic, thinking it makes them cooler. Some goths shop there, though they understand that apperances aren't everything and just needed some more nailpolish etc. There are many different forms of 'goth', raver, traditional, industrial, etc.

some person:hey, your in Hot Topic\! OMG your goth\! goth-ish person: go away. person:are you goth because you go to Hot Topic? goth: *eyebrow raise* No.

Author: Ghetto Billy Bob http://goth.urbanup.com/1274478
180. (goth) (11↑, 12↓)
A follower/fan of music that was different/older/barbaric compared to others. There is really no specific type, as pop can also be included. There is also not necessarily much else in common, as with any other group. A "goth" can be anyone, assuming they enjoy the music described. Misuse has also applied the term to metalheads, industrial fans, and the "suicidal" yuppie children. The bands currently labeled incorrectly as gothic include Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, and most nu-metal, or industrial-metal hybrids.

Joy Division were gothic compared to the rest of the music scene.

Author: thischarmingman http://goth.urbanup.com/702192
181. (goth) (2↑, 4↓)
being one meanings your not afraid to go into the dark side...your open to it.goths dont wanna kill everyone they do not hate everyone,you can be a goth in even believes..goths dont always have to wear black.

goth: life not rainbow and shine sun hon fake goth: life so dark it make my soul scream with black tears.

Author: www.myspace.com/mcnetty12 http://goth.urbanup.com/3892479
182. (goth) (4↑, 6↓)
There is no such thing as a "goth". Those who desperately cling to the name, aren't. Those who really are, don't claim the name. Therefore, there are no "goths".

"I'm not a goth. And neither are you."

Author: blackvelvetrose http://goth.urbanup.com/2669577
183. (goth) (4↑, 6↓)
goth is a word made up by people who need a name for stuff. people who are considered goth tend to wear alot of black, white, red, and purple. other colors are welcomed. i hate that people think goths are evil. my absolute best friend in the world is a goth and she ROCKS. she loves the ramones, afi, and the dropkick murphy's. she wears bondage pants(pants with alot of chains and straps), t shirts about add, family guy, and invader zim, nd friggin awesome hoodies. it is a very complementary look, as black tends to be, and i loooove it\! i do not fit under a label, though some stupid people call it emo. yeah. i dont even wear alot of black. but if i was to choose a style, i would choose gothic (or grunge, but anyway...), because it looks the best on people and it shocks. of course, their are scary goths, like the satan worshipping, hex giving , evil goths, but .. i like em. lol. but, you just have to get to know someone before you label them, if thats what u plan on doing. i mean, yeah. my bff(as mentioned earlier) actually speaks to preps. one of em is a good friend who likes abercrombie and backflips. yeah. gothic people(and emos, in general) are very open minded(usually) and are not quick to judge, even when others are quick to judge them.

goth: i love you me: omg i love you too paris hilton: thats hot. lol i just wanted to say that

Author: anamericanidiot101 http://goth.urbanup.com/2447656
184. (goth) (6↑, 8↓)
Goths are free minded, choosing to think and act out of the "norm". Many are very inteligent, having an open mind to anything new. They also may be very artistic and possibly more well-mannered than most people. Wannabe goths tend to dress in all black, as is the popular culture of goth, but do not have as open of a mind. They tend to be very easily angered by anything said against gothic culture, and have little to no manners, in their own homes or anywhere else. Both gaths and wannabe goths, though, tend to believe that they are more inteligent than others, and are better than others because they decide to dress out of the "norm". A true goth does not need the contsant make up of black, hair died, boots, trench coats, chains, or any of the many other styles there are. They dress how they want, wether that be a mix of the norm and their own style or an entirely new one.

Manson: goth Slipknot: goth "Maggots": wannabe goth

185. (goth) (1↑, 3↓)
usually people are goth becouse they think they have problems or they are wannabes some goths though are usually like that natrally they really are depressed unlike most goths wich like i said are only acting it to go with there appearence but not its true not all goths dress in black with chains becouse im a goth and i dont dress like that to often or act depressed when im really not, some people though have a huge misunderstanding on the "true" goths who are that way by nature which i think people need to open there eyes and figure out the posers from the naturals. and i read a thing earlier and just to get things striaght not all goths get drunk and fuck dead animals the only ones you do that are the sick bastards who make all us goths look bad by making everbody beilieve that all goths are supposed to be sick and satanic, but its not true and some goths do have a life the only ones who dont are the ones who think there lonley and abused but most of them are not there only acting. and i just wanted people to know this so they dont talk about all the ok goths, its only the wannabes and sickos that you should talk bad about. thats all i have to say now. oh and one more thing i found this and just decided to wright if i am wrighting from the wrong thing please let me know

im goth and im nothing like that

186. (Goth) (9↑, 11↓)
And here is "Goth," defined for the two hundred and sixty ninth time. . . Firstly, the word "Goth" is a label, a false thing intended to categorize individuals into groups, so as the better for Society to "understand" them. This illusion of "understanding" is, at best, superficial, thus also false. Unfortunately, many Goths do happen to fit their stereotypical descriptions, as do members of nearly every other demographic in Society. If stereotypes were not at least 50% accurate, they would likely not exist. Such stereotypical Goths are usually referred to as "poseurs" or "Mansonites", which indicates that they are generally considered NOT to be true individuals, but rather confused and maladaptive people desperately looking for a group which with they can identify. This state is typically transitory. If the poseur matures and evolves, they realize that "Goth" is a STATE OF MIND rather than a "fashion statement." Most true Goths do NOT look abnormal, nor do they fantasize about becoming a character out of a bad Anne Rice novel (who, incidentally, has just become a "Born Again"). People who violate this rule are typically just acting out a passing fad. True Goths have ALWAYS been Dark. "Dark" is not synonymous with evil -- although pea brained [sheeple], with their misguided preconceptions, will violently disagree. To them, being "different" is somehow a crime against Society. Darkness, IMHO, is nothing more than realistic pragmatism. Life is suffering (Buddha said that), and Death comes to us all -- often unexpectedly. Darkness is simply a tacit acceptance of facts that the sheeple would rather deny. A Goth is typically more intelligent and open-minded than the average citizen -- especially about political and theological matters (whereas, the average citizen is neither informed or tolerant of different views). Goth cannot be defined musically. My musical tastes vary on a regular basis. There are very few "must have" CDs, and even those are debatable. There is no "required" Goth literature or film. Some Goths feel most comfortable wearing a lot of black -- this is a matter of personal opinion. Personally, I prefer dark green. Female Goths can wear whatever they want (especially if they're hot). Male Goths (who would prefer to be acknowledged as heterosexual males) should definitely avoid: frills, lace, fishnet, mascara, excessive use of hair products, and those ridiculous capes. Oh, and while many Goths do consider themselves to be tolerant pacifists (i.e., "bully magnet"), quite a few adhere to a much different philosophy. For every "frail and pale Goth wussy", there's a Goth who works out and carries a blade. For example, I can do 50 pushups in under a minute, and am currently carrying a stiletto with a 6" blade (Ti-Lite VI). I have heard of very few Goth bullies (and most of those were surely poseurs), but I've met quite a few Goths -- both male and female -- who, while typically avoiding trouble, will steadfastly refuse to be victimized, and will not hesitate to stand up for those whom they feel are being wrongfully persecuted, regardless of the consequences.

Marilyn Manson is a poseur, NOT a Goth\!

Author: tyr shadowblade http://goth.urbanup.com/1719362
187. (goth) (5↑, 7↓)
A kick ass Germanic tribe that pooned the Romans, also and extremly broad term used to desribe a spectrum ranging from free thinkers to losers/posers to the color black and its comrades. It's also a really a dumb label often used by people to validate themselves or others. Also an excuse to harm one's self. I mean no harm to all those legit free thinkers and such. You guys are cool and i like you. But poser people should have the bejesus(or whatever diety you may believe in) smacked out of them. oh and an achitecture style

Dude the Romans got pooned by those Visigoths\! That kid is so goth. I want to be different so i act like everyone else in the "goth" subculture. "I wish the old school goths could come to the future and poon those newer "goth" poser lamo bitches lol" Kent

Author: Ross Pancake aka XttM aka Kent aka Stangg http://goth.urbanup.com/1307348
188. (goth) (8↑, 10↓)
a person who is not fit into normal society, they are stereotyped as "evil" in truth they are not. Commom enemies are the "preps."

"So what if I'm a goth?" \goth Me (Dirge) "Some goths can be nice....if you're nice to them." \goth Me (Dirge) "Are you sure you're gothic? Beacuae you don't act like one..." \goth My midget friend Alex.....*I smacked him on the head after he said that XD*

189. (Goth) (13↑, 15↓)
Goth were first Dicsovered in medievil times... 1) Goths normally say they are better than you... Well guess what.. they are\!\! 2)Goths show complete disregard to towniez (A form of Human that Has come from a broken home, And Cant Afford Real clothes or anything that costs more than £5 or hasn't got burberry on it.... And Leigh Park "Townie Central" Created one of the Shittest bands ever.)

(A Goth innoscently walking down the road.. Confronted By a Townie); Townie:"Oi.. You stupid Fukin Goth" Goth:"What" Townie:"Uhm.. (Didn't epect goth to reply).. Your Mum\!\! " Goth:"Just Fuck Off You Stupid Townie"

Author: Townies enemy \#1 http://goth.urbanup.com/954574
190. (goth) (6↑, 8↓)
many people associate goths as "devil worshippers" or suicidal or just plain weird\! this definition however is not tru at all. Goths are individuals, they are normally very clever, artistic and hav a fun wild side to them. They do not dress to scare people, wiv their black make up or white faces, they dress like this because it's them and that's just their style.They dont care what other people think of them and frown on the people who look down on the way they dress. Goths are smart and dont giv a damn bout the criticism they get frm the so called "popular" people.

goths brought civilisation

191. (Goth) (9↑, 11↓)
(adjective) Once whom is a "goth" is off-set onto many different definitions. Stereotype goths, such as the people whom work at and/or shop at Hot Topic, are the standard of what one what think as a goth. Your stereotypical goth usually consists of.... -Listening to Heavy Metal -Wears a LOT of chains/spikes -Dresses in all black -Hate anything colorful -Write (not very good) poetry -Idolizes "Jack" from The Nightmare Before Christmas -Do numerous drugs Not all goths are like this, but many goths hate to socialize outside of their sub-society. Not all goths are miserable. But those whom do may not know why.And some goths only use their label as an excuse to use the Goth fashion. In all, there are just as many good things about goths as there are bad things.

Not all Goths are bad people. But some goths are just there to make us REAL miserable people look bad.

Author: DruidMettool http://goth.urbanup.com/713664
192. (goth) (9↑, 11↓)
Ancient 3rd and 4th Century Germanic people that invaded the Roman Empire; aiding in its fall, a style of architecture, music, art, fashion, and literature that has been degraded to (mostly, not all) selfless, ignorant teenagers that can't cope with life, and find that dressing in black, wearing black make-up, listening to heavy metal, and cutting themselves is the answer to their 'horrible life.' For some of them, they're just pessimistic.. but atleast some of they actually have a sense of grammar, and.. some sorts of intelligence.

Kiddies out there with abusive parents, who are 'goth', don't cut yourself. There's something called.. police.

193. (goth) (7↑, 9↓)
Goth is a lifestyle which is much stereotyped by many teens who are posers, the lot. It is a style of living that entails being dark, romantic, poetic, artistic, mysterious, calm, sometimes sad, stuff.

I am gothic because I go to hottopic (loser) I consider ymself to be gothic. I am.

194. (goth) (11↑, 13↓)
1) A person who dresses different. Most goths dress in black. Goths do not worship Satan and are not suicidal. You can be a suicidal goth, but you can also be a suicidal prep. Alot of goths are fun, perky, smart, creative, sarcastic (mostly) and some wear bright clothing. A gothic person can be whatever they want to be. Even if you dont wear "goth clothing" you could be a goth. A goth is a person who calls themself a goth. 2) A type of music. 3) An old type of architecture. 4) A barbarian tribe.

1) I am definately a goth 2) Did you hear that new goth song? 3) That is a beautiful gothic church. 4) We are studying about the goths.

195. (Goth) (0↑, 3↓)
A goth is commonly known as a person or people who dress all in black, listen to death metal, are depressed all the time, and talk about commiting suicide. Yet this is just a stereotype. Goths are friendly people, who will asociate with anyone, no matter what "genre" they are.

"I'm so goth I shit bats" "I'm so goth I punched a care bear"

Author: LauRAWR\!superSTAR\! http://goth.urbanup.com/3800147
196. (Goth) (5↑, 8↓)
This has several definitions. 1. East Germanic tribes who, in the 3rd and 4th centuries, harried the Roman Empire and later adopted Arian Christianity. 2. A style of architecture. 3. A lifestyle that shouldn't be judged. 4. Something that people need to stop classifying.

History Teacher: Today we're going to talk about the Goths. Student 1: Who, the weirdos who hang around the art room? Student 2: No, stupid, the Germanic Tribes. Student 1: Oh. Mom: Oh, look at that amazing Gothic architecture\! Child: yeah, whatever. Guy: Oh man, look at those freaks\! They are total goths\! Mandy, darling, stay away from them. They'll eat you\! "Goth" kid: *laughs* You're calling me a freak? Guy: I hate Goths. "Goth": You need to get a life.

Author: IAmTheSpaceMouse http://goth.urbanup.com/3694958
197. (Goth) (5↑, 8↓)
Probably the most weirdass way to spend your youth.

At age 45, Tim realized he looked like a total moron with his satanic tattoos and excess supply of black makeup. Why did he become a goth? The world may never know

198. (Goth) (2↑, 5↓)
Goth is a loosely defined social sub-culture. Stereotypically, goths are deep, tortured artists, listen to ambient, dark (sub-par) music and have a penchant for self-harm. Some people who follow these trends do not describe themselves as goths, while many supposed goths do not follow them at all. My brother was hanging out with two goth friends, and a bunch of skangers made fun of them, to which one of the goths replied, and in all seriousness: "I will eat their souls". Had I have been there, I would have taken some time to explain to him that Evil Dead is just a movie and, also, the Necronomicon is not real. It IS true that Goths typically see themselves as unique individuals, although, to describe oneself as such and yet be part of an entire sub-culture essentially makes the term "goth" an oxymoron. The plus side to gothic fashion, is that it allows for naturaly beautiful women to show off curves and such. The flip-side of this is that fat women think this is ok for them to dress like that also, and dress in tight, ultra-revealing and lacy clothing which is gauranteed to give many men impotency for at least a month. All male goths look stupid, without exception. Male goths see the crow and emulate his appearance, without realisng that gothic fashion only looks cool on men in films because it makes them look dramatic. In real-life, there is far less drama and even less action to allow giant leather trenchcoats, black metal-esque make-up to work. I was going to type up a huge list of frequent gothic misconceptions, beliefs and lies and the contradictions and discrimination that comes with them, but someone has already done this for me, but forgot to add why every single thing he/she said is a lie. If you have read the extremely offensive and discriminating, lengthy pseudo-facts about goths and the difference between the chav sub-culture, I think you'll know where I'm going with this. I'll cover the most important of his or her's misinformation (I'll ignore his/her spelling mistakes which automatically deduct from his/her credibility, at least on the whole stereotypical "goths are intelligent" thing). "In the morning, a goth will ask themselves “what do I want to wear?” whilst a chav will ask themselves “what in this selection of clothes is the most acceptable thing to wear?” " This fails to point out the fact that, being a goth, he/she is similarly limited in clothing just as the chav is, only being a goth, he/she has tried to give a different reason for this. "A goth will listen to music that is meaningful to their life and thought provoking, a chav will listen to music which will tell him how to behave. " This one ignores the fact that goth music itself is typically centered around a limited subject matter, and avoids discussing how "chav music" tells people how to behave. The next paragraph, hilariously, contains several goth cliches, we are all doomed, life is pointless, blah-blah-blah, ignoring how other people may not think so, proving how close-minded he/she really is. Also he/she calls non-goths fools for not conforming to his/her point of view. Then, the money shot: "I treat others as I wish to be treated myself" Yes that's right, after making a gigantic entry belittling chavs and non-goths, for, incredibly, not conforming to his/her beliefs, and moaning that no-one undertands him/her, he/she commits the ultimate hypocrisy and states that he/she treats everyone as she would want to be treated. Hmm. Does this means he/she likes being told he/she is inferior, unoriginal and uncreative? "As a goth, all you various ‘rude’ forms of life make me sick. Goth is what the individuals do- and as for the idea of the wannabe goth these either revert to conformity or evolve.(I mean slipknot/korn fans, as for manson fans I think those who say he isn’t gothic just don’t know enough about him- sure listening to manson WILL NOT make you gothic, but give that poor dark philisophical soul some credit\! He’s certainly not gonna un-goth you\!)" Let me get this straight. He/she has insulted every non-goth at every step of his/her entry, and now, quite hypocritacally calls US rude. Oh. Almost forgot the insertion of the common misconception that goths are intelligent and dark and philisophical. And the even-more frequent mis-conception that Manson is a good musician. No-one older than 17 listens to him, by the way. Finally: "Goths make the greatest friends. Goths have the unusual ideas. Goths just don’t suffer from the same afflictions of ‘normality’ as you self-mirroring lot- change for once. down with mediocrity." I have the greatest friends on the planet. They are always there for me, they listen to my problems, they listen to different music, have interests and expertise in different things, they don't even fit into a sub-culture. What makes your goth friends so much better than mine? Unusual ideas? At no-where have you stated why, or provided evidence why this is: A:Only inherent goths or B:Neccessarily a good thing. Goths don't suffer from the same resrictions of normality? This world is not the matrix and you, nor any-other self-important goth are NOT neo. I love the way these people act like they don't make funny noises taking a shit like the rest of us do... "I'm so deep and -oohhuuuUUnnggaaarggh\!\!\! " *Sploosh\!* Self-mirroring: Way to prove your intelligence, gothic-Einstein. This term literally means to mirror, dun-dun-DUUUUUH\! Yourself\! What? Are you saying I look like myself? Is that a bad thing? Why? Maybe I should conform to what you say and not look like myself. Ok, I just tried it now, but every time I looked in the mirror, I still just looked like me. Mediocrity: Yes down with mediocrity\! Better yet, down with self-contradiction, delusions of superiority, and discrimination towards people who do not share your fashion-statement, or "dark" philosophies\!

1: Skanger:"Hallow'een's over\!" Goth:"I will eat your soul" 2: Goth: "I'm bettr thon u" Me: "Of course you are"

199. (Goth) (4↑, 7↓)
True Goths: \gothhave a strong mental outlook \gothare trustworthy \gothare kinder than the "normal" person \gothare not emo \gothare completely balanced emotionally despite common thought on outward appearance \gothare beautiful \gothstrive for perfection \gothare intelligent \gothhave experiences that set them apart from the levels of maturity among their peers \gothare not always negative \gothare understanding \gothembrace the dark nature of humanity \gothhave a strong presence \gothconfident in who they are

Amy Lee from Evanescence is a true goth.

200. (goth) (3↑, 6↓)
preservers of ancient spiritual culture. hence why even though people would diagree being a goth is to adhere to the gothic religion... all those famous things or secrets of our world not known in words yet ie (still unwritten law)...the celebration of old religions and/or cultures , or people (that have often died).. the gothic must not make up what he represents ie they cannot celebrate a false god for example or he is gothic towards himself he has lost what he considers his or her true self and hence they dress up like they are dead ... it is a religion based on true exprience be it people in the past or themselves

draconights goths (you can find him on the internet)... elven goths. knomic goths. or just plane goths .. i am a goth ... or i am gothic

Author: angus macfarlane http://goth.urbanup.com/2309915
201. (goth) (17↑, 20↓)
One of the few respectable subcultures in that they're not retarded children who must make themselves the center of attention by moaning about slight imperfections grossly romanticized (emo) or equally stupid lemmings who try to follow random, often mixed up, misinformed and ignorant stereotypes surrounding certain subcultures (scenesters). Goths are truly artistic and are often very friendly and intelligent once you get to know them. They are often demonized by high school councilors who act like they have a fork stuck up their ass and mainstream media-slaves because of their popular association with Counter-culture religions and philosophies(i.e. Lucifinarianism, Wicca, etc.) this presumption is more often than not untrue and just goes to show how ignorant people can be. Goths are often misunderstood because dispite artistic flavor and expression, it is often manifested in masochistic/sadist themes. And if you can't appreciate darker forms of expression, art, music and writing, go fuck yourself you pretentious little fucknut. Goth is also respectable in that it's not about non-comformity. It's about free expression, not just shitting out reasons to stand against mainstream ideas just for the hell of it. People have reasons not to comform. And those who do it because they think that the mainstream is stupid or pretentious and ignorant or because they believe that that's just not who they are should be respected. But those who fake personalities and look up reasons to go against popular thinking in urbandictionary should be dragged behind the gym by Varsity football and beaten until their intestines start to spill from their mouth.

YES: The kids who eat lunch by themselves, perhaps play with sharpies, may or may not have body tattoos or piercings (each to his/her own choice) take several art-based (fine art included) classes, hate preps and seem to be having more fun than most people. NO: The fucknuts who think that dressing in black and scratching copious amounts of eye-liner on and chanting about the rise of Satan to eat everyone's testes and ovaries makes them a non-comformist goth.

Author: Rousseau, King of Anarchy http://goth.urbanup.com/2234220
202. (goth) (5↑, 8↓)
Very cool and nonconforming music and style\! Goths,contrary to popular belief, do not want to kill you or your mother. Most Goths (at least the ones I know) are fun people who don't give a damn what the mainstream thinks or does.

Dork - Gawd, look at those goth kids with black hair and baggy clothes. I'm not going near them, they will probably throw shit at me. Dork's buttbuddy- eeeeeeeeeeeee\!

Author: Tirade Of Spankamonia http://goth.urbanup.com/2073108
203. (Goth) (4↑, 7↓)
1) Teutonic people who invaded the Roman Empire. The threat ended in the 5th Century. 2) A set of intellectual and sartorial conventions adopted in order to publicly affirm the wearer's disdain for conventions or public displays. The threat ends when the goth's allowance is cut off.

1) Goth dialogue, 300AD. Look, Olaf\! Chavs\! By god, we shall attack them and plunder their booty\! 2) Goth dialogue, 2006AD. Look, Tarquin\! Chavs\! Oh god, I hope they don't attack us and steal our unread Penguin Classics translations of Camus.

204. (Goth) (17↑, 20↓)
Goth is not a heavy death anorexic mopey fiend who wears black all the time. Being goth is like when you used to be in dysfunctional situations before. We didn't choose to be gothic, it chooses us instead. Poseurs claim to be goth just because they wear black and listen to the so-called goth music. They don't even know the definition. That's terribly pathetic. I became goth because I was adapted to the paranormal world since I was little. My family was the victim of black magic. Yes, I'm not a depressing goth. I used to be depressed, but not anymore. Goths are not satanists\! Well, maybe some of them are. I have my own religion (Islam). Gothic is like a medium where you can meet other people having the same experience like you (no matter what religion they are). Goths are actually intellectual and intelligent people. They wear black. But not all the time. Goth is all about the attitude and your experience in life. Goths are intellectual, creative, and artistic people (most uneducated goths are poseurs\!). They writes poetry and reads gothic literature. I study Biology, Information Technology, Chemistry, Physics, English For Science And Technology. Does this proves that I'm uneducated and stupid? Being goth doesn't mean you don't listen to other types of music. I listen to Marilyn Manson, My Chemical Romance, Bjork, and Slipknot. They're not goths, but I like their music. So what?

Poseur 1: Owh my goth, I love boys with fringe. That's so goth\! Poseur 2: Shut up, I'm tryina slit my wrist here. Poseur 1: And, boys with eyeliner. Poseur 3: Well, I'll try overdosing instead.

Author: Siti Noraisyah A.R. http://goth.urbanup.com/1739220
205. (Goth) (6↑, 9↓)
Generally people who like the darker side of life. Outcasts by choice, they listen to underground music because they dislike the mainstream and being a sheep to society. In most cases goths are very smart and artistic and have a sense of humor that can take a while to get used to (unless your a goth). Their humor is about just about everything from themselves to others, and it is intelligent humor. Goths aren't like the average and that's why their goths and contrary to popular belief, they are not all suicidal. In fact few are suicidal, just dark. Goths may come across as scary but are quite nice people. Becoming goth can be provoked by certain things in life that turn people into introverts, but they are still nice people. Being goth is about being different and out of the ordinary.

Prep: Look at that faggot goth in his weird clothes Goth: Look at that mainstream prep, cant find his own style so he wears what everyone else does. HAHA, he thinks hes cool

206. (goth) (4↑, 7↓)
ok, after reading your definitions, im amazed people actualy post here. alot of people have it right, but noone is rong. musicaly, goth is nolonger aroung, spiritualy, goth is dying fashion wise, goth is being replaced, for the people who label themselves goth, get a grip, for the people who are labled goth, be proud people see you as yourself. after reading them all, all ive found, is that stereotypes of goth are wrong, and so are most of the defenitions. goth is a culture, a way of life, and a way through for some of us. i am 13, and ive been labled for over 4 years, i couldnt care, if they want to call me goth, let them, all i know is that if they label you, they are making thwemselces no better than that which they are mocking.

them: hes one of those goths who try to kill themselves me: whatever them: gay boy me: im not gay, alough i know alot of people who are. them: what is with him, thinking is all hrd, because he slits his wrists me: i dont slit my wrists, i write poetry to unwind, i slit myself to realise that things could be worse, and i hate people like you because they need to take the mick out of us sor a few cheap laughs, when it would be much easier to go out and get a fewdecent friends, and have a decent life, than ruining it just to be popular

207. (goth) (27↑, 30↓)
there is nothing wrong with goths like me who just wear a lot of black and are depressed. I hate that a lot of people say that no one has a real reason for being depressed. I think that this is not a nice thing to do because they do not know what is going on in the life of that person, saying that they have no reason to be depressed may be hurting their feelings. I think that most goths are ok apart from the ones who think they are cool just because they intimidate others. I do not think that walking around wearing black lipstick makes you cool. I have nothing against those who have a strong reason to be depressed as I do, but I do not like people who enjoy hating others. I would also like to mension that this website is stupid, it is inviting people to insult others. Why can everyone not just accept what other people think. I hate anyone who thinks that they're opinion is always right and that they are better then everyone else. This is my opinion and I am not going to force anyone to agree with me but I just felt that the way people treat others on this site is wrong and that your should think twice about what you write before you end up hurting someones feelings. Ps: I am not a teeny, or some soppy kid who wants everyone to love each other, I just know the effect things like this can have on other people.

"I dress in black but this does not make me a goth" "You wear black lipstick and a dog collar but this does not make you cool or give you a right to instult others"

Author: I owe my life to GoodCharlotte http://goth.urbanup.com/946422
208. (goth) (10↑, 13↓)
Where do I start\! The Fake Goth or GOFF- an offshoot of the Punk or metal scene that varies little apart from going towards such group as Marylin mansion NIN, etc wearing large amounts of black and rebelling cos it looks cool (Ironic eh?) the Gothic scene- I can only speak for the british scene personally but it seems to have come out of the post-punk movement in the late 70's early 80's going toward darker and heavier tones and feelings, e.g. Sisters of mercy, Siouxsie and the banshees, etc, A Goth- a person who often has a twisted or cynical view on life, and sees the world as a dark, hopeless and i might say, morbid place, and revels in it, they are often interested in the arts particularly dating back to the 18/19th centuries and take a lot of their stle from that period (often for posh occaisons) but are still in touch with the modern day, stereotyped(is that a word) by black clothing, silver jewelry and makeup (both Genders) but the appearance does not matter when it comes to goths, it is their view on life and what they feel inside, that style of clothing is simply a common occurance *whew*

Goff: *to real goth* you fucking weirdo\! I reject you you conformist, I reject you normal people\! Goth: *smirks, then sighs slightly and walks off*

209. (goth) (14↑, 17↓)
Generally speaking, most goths hate the title. those that actually like the title are more often than not posers. They generally wear black, but many just wear colors that people won't expect (example: neon paisly-pattern pants (yes, i actually know someone that wears them on a regular basis)). Goths are generally seen as depressed or clinically insane, but this is not neccesarily true. The depression came from the black clothes, i think, and the clinically insane rumor -so far as i know- sparked because they tend to be very open about conflicting sides of themselves -like a conscience and a rebel and all those other wierd urges- and some that i know give their contrasting sides names. hence shcitsophrenia rumors. And no, goth is NOT in the music one listens to\! some rides on the lyrics, but what really matters is WHY a person listens to their music. I actually have goth friends that admit to liking a few Britney Spears songs (*cold shivers*).

"Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" "Probably not, but I don't really want to wait for you to explain whatever you were going to explain, so yeah\! great idea\! You wear the fake beard, I'll hide in the ventilation shaft." \<--actual dialogue

210. (goth) (10↑, 13↓)
A goth is someone who hate to be labled. Therefore they would NOT say they are goth. A goth is someone who is very creative and expresses themselves through art and their clothing. A goth can NOT be a prep. A goth CAN be a 12 year old, because a goth is someone who is true to themselves and always act lie themselves...do you have a problem with that?

Prep: You are SUCH a goth. Goth: Thank you\!

211. (goth) (12↑, 15↓)
a goth is someone who would hate to be thought of as someone "like them." "Them" being both Trendies and Townies. they dress the way they do as a statement to the general public so they will not mistake their inclinations. most goths think that nu-metal is the scourge of modern society and think that the world might just be bearable if there were no townies,Trendies,preppies, jocks, murderers or hatemongerers.

"Goth is a state of mind...meaning everyone you dont hate."

Author: Steerpike Sister http://goth.urbanup.com/128978
212. (Goth) (1↑, 5↓)
1. A type of architecture, not a "style" or "way of life." 2. People who think they're evil, but would shit their diapers if they saw the real thing.

1. Look at that Gothic building, it's so beautiful. 2. "Goth" kid: Holy shit a demon\!\! *screams and cries bloody murder*

213. (Goth) (21↑, 25↓)
someone who wasn't hugged enough as a child. goths like to pretend they were unfairly outcasted by society, when in reality they are socially inept and intolerant of most mainstream culture. they think that people who enjoy things such as mtv are brainwashed idiots instead of realizing that goths themselves are the ones who are trying too hard to fit the mold of a stereotype. goths also like to pretend that they, at heart, are more approachable and make better friends than your average prep because they're "intelligent", when in reality they use their pseudo-intellectual bullshit as an excuse to put themselves on a pedestal and act like they're so much greater than the rest of the world.

goth - "you laugh at me because i'm different, but i laugh at you because you're all the same" normal person - "right, because you and all your friends don't dress exactly alike and listen to the same shitty music."

214. (goth) (0↑, 4↓)
1. [poser] goth.who immediatly labels themselves goth without a clue what it is. 2. the religion which tecnically is [demonicai], it was called the second goth. 3. the [germeric tribe]. 4. [the style]. e.g [clothes], [music] e.t.c 5.the fuckin [label] that people use on me. i let them think what they want. 6.the [personality]. e.g natural goths e.t.c 7. a term preps use to describe anyone who is [differant] to them. 8. if u can thing of any more, add a definition.

prep- u fucking goth me- what? prep- r u a fucking goth or a fucking emo? me- what the hell r u on about. prep- yeah, u fucking goths know all about hell dont u? me- f off.

Author: city girl thorn http://goth.urbanup.com/2788741
215. (goth) (17↑, 21↓)
goths are not dark, depressing and all that, im called a goth nearly every day, i hang round with goths, skaters, emos, chavs, everyone really. i dont dress in black because im always depressed i wear it 'cause i want to, and i have never seen anyone wear an outfit anything like one of mine. yes i do get depressed sometimes but i can also be insanely hyper, which i am most of the time, yes i do listen to heavy rock, death metal, emo, screamo.... but i do also have a massive RnB CD, althoug addmittedly i dont listen to that as much as i listen to rock, yes i do know goths that cut themselves but i also know alot of preppy girls that do to, and these are the same girls that diss goths and call them 'f**kin wrist slitters' when only one or two people in our group of well over 20 in school do actually cut themselves. if any groups dont get along round here its goths and chavs, but like i said, i get along great with some and hang aruond with them all the time. i do wear eyeliner and i know boys that do to, people say all goths and emos are depressing but were just the same as everyone else out there, just we have a different stle of clothing. to me it seems the other way around, when im out with my 'goth' friends i have loads of fun as they are the craziest and most hyper people i'v ever met, but then i see a group of 'chavs' sat on a wall lookin gloomy only for them to turn around and say something about depressing goths(no offence, some are awesome). i can accept anyone or at least give them a chance, but no one accepts me because of the way i dress. We live in a world where no matter what someone says, does or wears you will be stereotyped, and there will always be someone out there who will dilike something, if not everything, about you and your group of friends and the people you talk to. surely if a 14 year old girl can see that there is no difference between herself and anyone else, why cant the rest of the world be the same instead of having a verbal war waging between groups?

im not the stereotype goth and very few are, im not from an upper class family, im not a complete idiot, ima christian and go to church(\!)and no its not a satanic church, i dont smoke or do drugs. im just a normal kid with an individual sense of style and music preference, the same as every other teenage goth really.

Author: the scary goth you probably dont know.... http://goth.urbanup.com/2029525
216. (goth) (2↑, 6↓)
labels are convenient, yes, but goths have different styles too. ..gothic lolita-basically trying to look like china doll. theyre cute and they carry around toys, pretty nice lot of people, a lot of them have pink in their hair and whatnot, their hair being in pigtails or braids, etc. ..elegant gothic lolita-they look like people who lived in upper class england in the 1700s ish. top hats, tailcoats,ictorian dresses, lace, black clothing, with other colours on the dark side, i.e purple, dark green, blood red ..happy goth (mostly in japan)- they wear tonnes and tonnes of accessories, and the ultimate goal is to blind you iwth bright, happy colours.its adorable and they do in fact wear pink. quite alot of it. they wear black too, but mainly colours. all over. ( red, yellow, red, light blue, pink, etc) goths most other places are supposed to be depressed gay rebels, which is not true, of course. trust me, go round asking 'those who are normal' if what they wear makes them happy and theyll say no. its just what they wear. it doesnt express much but for that this guy or that is man enough to wear pink. good for him. it does hold true that most goths have dyed hair, wear black, and are a little unhappy.but its also true that even though you might be scared of a goth, theyre the nicest group of people youll ever meet if you stop insulting them. theyre pretty smart, leaning toward the artistic side and might be slightly obsessed with music. which by the way does have to be death metal. goths also like bands like the postal service and belle and sebastian.

go to google and look up harajuku or harajuku fashion lo and behold, different styles of goth\! or just look up gothic lolita, elegant gothic lolita, etc. great fun, i assure you.

Author: haveaniceday http://goth.urbanup.com/1917221
217. (goth) (3↑, 7↓)
Goth, although once an expression of individuality, is now a commercial image sold by big business. They now have shops such as Emily the Strange that promote and sell the goth image. If you shop at such places you are buying something that everyone can have and probably does have. Ergo, you are not a true goth who wishes to be individual. Goth, as well as many other social groups, is a box that people are put in so we can organise society. People are labelled to make it easier for others to relate to them. I exhibit many chracteristics of a goth (outlook of the world, sense of humour ect,) but am I one? No. This is because I choose not to buy into a commercial image that has been ruined by our "friends" big business and lemming teenagers. So, if we follow this philosiphy, everyone who calls themself a goth is a poser and everyone who dresses like a goth is just buying into a commercial entity and is therefore a sellout and a poser.

Goth: I'm so individual I dress and act just like all my friends because society tells me to.

Author: All the bloody names are taken\! http://goth.urbanup.com/1858349
218. (goth) (5↑, 9↓)
According to the historians Cassiodorus and Jordanes in the beginning of 200 A.D. The Roman Empire was attacked by a Germanic tribe from southern Scandinavia. A century later it split into 2 tribes, Ostrogoth meaning “eastern Goth” and Visigoth meaning “western Goth.” In 370 A.D. both were attacked by Huns. The Ostrogoths merged with them and the Visigoths fled from them to a Roman province called Thrace and revolted killing the Roman Army and Emperor Valens at Adrianople present day Edirne, Turkey in 378 A.D. During the early 400’s they invaded Italy under there King Alaric and sacked Rome in 410. The Ostrogoths freed themselves of the Huns in 454 and conquered Italy in 488 under their king Theodric the Great. Both Gothic tribes were then reunited under him in 507. The Visigoths then moved to Gaul/France and to Spain and their empire there lasted into 711. The Ostrgoth’s empire lasted to 553. They were feared because captives were sacrificed to their war god Tyz, and because of this the name Goth became associated with bad behavior and violence. In medieval and modern day Spain, Visigoths were thought to be the origin of Spanish nobility and in Latin America is used as a racial term referring to the Spaniards who oppressed the Native Americans. The Goths were actually the first Germanic people to convert to Christianity and in the 12th century religious buildings, castles and graveyards were built in Gothic architecture which has led to a time period called the Gothic era. In the 19th century Gothic literature first appeared because the stories took place in such places and lead it to represent dark stories of horror. In the late 20th century it came to represent a style and sound of darkness leading to a misconception of what a goth truly is.

You don't call a French person German, and the same goes for calling a person who's not of gothic ancestry a goth.

219. (goth) (15↑, 19↓)
a goth is some1 that listens to heavy metal/emo/rock/death metal/goth music. despite wot chavs say about goths they dont all wear long black leather coats and worship satan. goths just dont like to be in wiv the latest fasions nd listen to r&b nd hip hop music. a goth is actually a very nice person and probally alot nicer to speak to than a chav coz a goth is just some1 being theirself unlike a chav that trys to be sumthing and some1 they aint.

my friend has just became a goth but hasn't realli changed that much to be honest she has became a nicer person

Author: drowning-depression http://goth.urbanup.com/1377454
220. (Goth) (16↑, 20↓)
1) The people who truely ARE goths 2) The people who claim to be goths (usually posers 'cause no one liked them) ... yet listen to linkin park, simple plan and Good Charlotte because they are Dark/metal O.o .. EXPLAIN HOW THESE ARE METAL... idioths

1) Wow, goths are pretty cool\! 2) Posers are lame... like linkin park

221. (Goth) (0↑, 5↓)
Goths are a label for people who think its halloween everyday. xD

Goth people wear stuff like Scary capes, boots, wigs, face paint.

222. (goth) (0↑, 5↓)
Alot of people have added what a goth really is, a thoughful caring person, and some other chavs have added some hate mail you find down the bottom of the page... I'll say what i think makes a goth The biggest virtue is of course, selflessness. A goth wont lower themselves to looking at people and saying "chu looking at??" then promptly begin beating them up... well only if they outnumber their prey two to one, thats called a chav people. Secondly, goths are creative thoughful people who have very colourful personalities. Goths don't resort to typing like this: "hey, u kk?" "ye i fine ta", we actually bother to speak proper english. A goth wont also think that they are the most important person in the world or act like cowards, (i.e. chavs). We also dress what makes us happy, we dont care if you say its not "in" we dont care whats "in". You might think at this time im being a bit harsh on the chavs, but next time you watch the news, or a cop show on tv, look at the guy(s) in the stolen nova, or running from a store laden with stuff... someone wearing burberry or some stupid tracksuit. There are very few goths or others very similar that commit serious crimes.

Chav:"What chu looking at?" Goth:"Excuse me?" Chav:"What chu looking at me for?? you wanna make somethin of dis?" Goth:"No, I..." *Goth gets stabbed by chav for no reason*

223. (Goth) (5↑, 10↓)
First of all, there are several kinds of Goths. 1)Traditional goths: Usually displayed by main charicters in fiction books or movies, Such as Van Helsing or V for Vendetta. "Traditional" goths are bold, creative, and very intelegent people. They usually dress in all black and white. Most Traditional Goths do not wear all the spiky studded stuff. Usually just long dark clothes made of Leather or Velvet. They are usually on the brighter side of life and expect the unexpected. They simply choose this life style because it is different from the majority. Traditional Goths will listen to all kinds of music, but favor and find the beauty in Classical, Opera, and Instrumental music. They appretiate great art, drama, music, or anything else that has a sense of "elegence" to it. They have a strong sense of symbolism, and often wear lots of necklaces or rings. Traditional Goths enjoy being around just about anyone as long as the people they are with arn't to immature. Most Traditional Goths are of Christian Faith, though can be of any religion. 2)Modern Goths: Modern Goths are much like Traditional Goths, but more "modern" as the name may suggest. They are bold, creative, and intelegent. Displaying many of the traits of a Traditional Goth. But they wear the kinds of clothes you might find at Spencers, Hot topic, or your local Renassance fair. Modern Goths listen to most kinds of music, but will perfer more Hardcore music or Metal. They like the feeling of being "Heavy" and "Extreme" while at the same time not breaking the law or anything. They are rebelious and will do everything in their power from becoming a conformist. Most of them enjoy the Fine Arts, but in a different light from Traditional goths. Modern Goths love to be with freinds, and in large groups just hanging out. 3) Punk Goths: Punk Goths are not at all like any other kinds of Goths. Punk Goths wear the kind of spiky, studded, covered in black clothes a Modern Goth might wear, but similarities end there. Punk Goths are as the name suggests. Punks. They are usually nice people but they do enjoy breaking the rules most of the time. They listen to usually nothing less hardcore then Trash Metal and don't have as great respect for the fine arts as other Goths do. They simply enjoy looking and acting tougher then the average joe. 4)Emo Goths: Now, I know alot of you people out there think Emo's are horrible posers that wish they were the opposite sex, slit their wrists, and want all the attention in the world. Emo Goths are alot different. Emo Goths are usually from families that don't function well. For example, one of their parents may be an alchoholic or a stoner. Perhapes the death of a dear friend of relative, or maybe just feeling alone. Emo Goths wear pretty much nothing but black, sometimes with studs. Usually wearing Black skater brand T shirts or Band T shirts with black or blue jeans. Emo Goths have great respect for the fine arts, and usually listen to Punk Rock, Altrernative, or metal. Some Emo Goths do harm themselves, some see it as a distraction or a temperary escape from the stress they may be under. Emo Goths do not HAVE to be under stress to be an Emo Goth, but stress is what may lead to it. Emo Goths are usually creative in their own ways, and like to be alone maybe with a small group of friends. They hate crowded rooms and being with large mobs of people. 5)Black Goths: Black Goths are usually good people, but some may call them "Evil". Most Black goths are Wiccans, Satanists, or of other "Unusual" Religions. They beleive in magic and curses. Most Black Goths are nice people, someone you can have a normal conversation with. Some of them are a bit like punk Goths, like breaking the rules. The personality of a Black Goth really depends on their Religion. Not all "Satanic" Black Goths are the kind of people that want everyone to die though, some of them are as normal as you are. Black Goths enjoy being with people much like themselves, and enjoy all kinds of music. Usually Classical, Traditional, or "Black Metal". Black Goths may wear long black robes or Jackets. Sometimes wearing normal clothes. So as you can see there are many times of Goths as there are many types of people. Do not misjudge them simply because they look "Demonic" or like something out of a horror movie. Get to know one first. All Goths display individuality proudly. Which is what makes them a Goth. Not all Goths have to wear black or studded Leather. "Goth" is more of a personality then it is a style.

Look at that guy\! He looks like a Traditional Goth.

224. (goth) (5↑, 10↓)
usually people are goth becouse they think they have problems or they are wannabes some goths though are usually like that natrally they really are depressed unlike most goths wich like i said are only acting it to go with there appearence but not its true not all goths dress in black with chains becouse im a goth and i dont dress like that to often or act depressed when im really not, some people though have a huge misunderstanding on the "true" goths who are that way by nature which i think people need to open there eyes and figure out the posers from the naturals. and i read a thing earlier and just to get things striaght not all goths get drunk and fuck dead animals the only ones you do that are the sick bastards who make all us goths look bad by making everbody beilieve that all goths are supposed to be sick and satanic, but its not true and some goths do have a life the only ones who dont are the ones who think there lonley and abused but most of them are not there only acting. and i just wanted people to know this so they dont talk about all the ok goths, its only the wannabes and sickos that you should talk bad about. thats all i have to say now. oh and one more thing i found this and just decided to wright if i am wrighting from the wrong thing please let me know

im goth and im nothing like that

225. (Goth) (9↑, 14↓)
A clique that was created in the eighties. A Goth is a person who’s similar to an [Emo], but less “Whiny”. The whole Goth culture surrounds the concept of being “unique” (against conformity) and hating the mainstream. These people are highly hypocritical in the sense that they claim to go against conformity yet conform to the Goth lifestyle. Due to the overwhelming amount of depressed teenagers in the world, being Gothic no longer goes against the mainstream. They have become part of the mainstream society and thus must conform to become a Goth.

"Goth's need to learn to shut up and try fixing their problems instead of whining about them"

226. (goth) (15↑, 20↓)
now: a growing middle/high school clique that has taken in many loner teens. they usually listen to bad music, but most are pretty cool people. they dont really do anything bad now, they just are being themselves. they seem alright to me, except for the scary ones.

"goths" can be pretty cool people, except the like real frightening ones.

227. (goth) (24↑, 29↓)
Victim of stereotypes.

Your just pissed off because my lifestyle looks cooler than yours.

Author: Jack The Stripper http://goth.urbanup.com/296826
228. (Goth) (1↑, 7↓)
An entire sub-culture of weeaboo teenagers dedicated to the destruction of the emos, wether they call themselves emo, or others say they are (such as myself). Typically funny, backlash can still be incured if their favorite band or RPG is put down even once. Fun to be with, but possibly abbrasive.

theres this goth chick i like, but she seems to have a blood feud against me. that and she thinks my taste in games sucks

Author: an emo, so says everyone else http://goth.urbanup.com/3262981
229. (goth) (0↑, 6↓)
goth-A sweet stile were peolple dress in black and talk about dieing and pain

look \@ marilyn manson he is so goth he farts out spiders.

Author: gothikmonkey555 http://goth.urbanup.com/2658561
230. (goth) (7↑, 13↓)
the personality people who express their souls in a dark way. real goths don't cut themselves (some do, but it's not a goth trait... there are preppy cutters too.) real goths could be atheistic, christian, jewish, wiccan, agnostic, whatever... goths don't worship satan. goth music could range from classics like Evanescence and Linkin Park to Wicked and Rent or even Enya... i like to think of myself as the founder of the "broadway goth," goths that are theatrical and artistic. real goths are open to friendships with everyone and never exclude someone because they're not "goth" enough. goths also tend to have fire in their souls and dislike conforming to other people's set rules. this sometimes impacts their grades, which gives way to the rumors that goths are stupid and stubborn. the style hot topic is really a punk store, but it has goth things as well. however, you can get goth stuff lots more places... personally, my shopping consists mainly of thrift stores (i trade old clothes in for store credit), old navy (really simple things like, idk, swim suits, plain black tee shirts, zip up sweatshirts) and hot topic for odd items. a lot of goths don't wear solid black all the time because they have unique style and wear what they want. also, handmade clothing is very goth. rixa's advice to beginners my advice to beginning goths everywhere is this- don't feel pressured into doing things because you're afraid not to be goth. you don't have to wear black lipstick and eyeshadow if you don't want to\! you don't have to listen to screaming metal if you don't want to\! if mom has issues with chains and multiple piercings, you don't have to\! opt for a victorian look (think vampires and red roses) or maybe something cute and sweet (like cute graphic tees and converse). goth is what you make it. not what other people say. and never listen to people when they say you're a poser, because unless you follow what everyone else thinks is goth, you're not. there is also such a thing as gothic literature... a famous gothic writer is edgar allen poe. lemony snicket is not a gothic author. alice in wonderland is a gothic type book because the story is kind of dark humor and just a little strange. my personal favorites striped leggings and plaid skirt together lace fingerless gloves (i made mine) corset top (got mine at forever 21, started modifying a black tank top last night) black boots (mine are dress boots and i've had them for nearly 4 years) fun jewelry (my favorite piece is two random old fashioned keys i found that i put on a chain) good old fashioned deformed cargo pants low cut converse

my favorite goth musician is [amy lee] of [evanescence].

231. (Goth) (6↑, 12↓)
Goths are a group of people who are just being themselves and in most cases don't actually label themsevles goth ( they are against labels in general)goth people are often artistic in some form and very creative. goth people are not super depressed people who decide to ware all black to piss off their parants (those who do this are posers). they are their own culture and would rather be themselves then fit in amoung a cookie cutter society. Also most people asume they can't have fun, guess what they do have fun and laugh just like everyone else.

oh my god i'm going to be goth and be depressed and ware al black and like rebel against eerything you are such a poser

Author: Pandora Lavon http://goth.urbanup.com/1646121
232. (Goth) (13↑, 19↓)
the incorrect term used to describe/stereotype people who wear black, hate people, and listen to metal. They may also be suicidal. The goths were actually a people who invaded the roman empire.

even though [marilyn manson] is awesome, he is not a goth. Goths should have a new stereotypical name.

Author: a1steaksauce http://goth.urbanup.com/1491597
233. (goth) (19↑, 25↓)
1. A barbaric tribe that brought down Rome centuries ago. 2. A currently religion easily mixed up with Pagan. 3. Stereotypically, people who dress in dark, morbid clothes and listen to goth and industrial bands.

Goth Bands: Sisters Of Mercy, Bauhaus, Joy Division, London After Midnight, The Damned, Mission UK, etc. NON-Goth Bands: Evanescence, Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, The Cure, Linkin Park, KoRn, etc. The Cure is New Wave, NOT goth\! They were only goth rock for ONE album\!

234. (Goth) (2↑, 9↓)
Something Emo people call themselves when they realize how ridiculous they are, and want to project a harder edge.

I'm sure into alot of crap. goth goth goth.

Author: LivesInCellarWithRatsAndMom http://goth.urbanup.com/3290769
235. (goth) (6↑, 13↓)
i'm guessing here, my freinds say i am a goth (once it was emo, don't know where the hell the hell they got it from) but here goes my guess. Some one who likes to be different from everyone else by wearing what thay like and doing what they like. Black is a nice colour, i don't know why, but it is excellent. Goths want to stand out but hide as well, and aren't at all scary or whatever. They are happy to laugh (shock, horror) and to be laughed at, like this morning when i fell down the stairs with my friends and laughed, but oh well. I personally like to stand out, and am not afraid to be differt, my personal favourite is to go out in a long black jacket, the chavs yell but i yell back. From what i know goths are loyal to their friends, and don't have to hang with loads of other goths and talk about death. If my friends, who are a mixed and funny bunch, are in trouble i am always there for them and defend them and take the blame, even if it means people hate me instead. Goths can laugh off and ignore insults that are thrown at them and don't usually get all emotional like emo's, emo-emotional, wow, i am a genius. Any way, they can be happy and entertaining and normal, until they get into a dark place and start the mass murders, JOKE. Ermmmm, i guess that is all that i have to say, oh yeah, i don't think that there is any type of music for goth's, i think my mixed CD, Supercharged, is the best, but i like a wide range of music to. Being goth is just how you feel inside. I hope i haven't offeneded anyone in doing this, if so, sorry\!\!\! I only wrote what i think.

I dunno, what, am i supposed to right about goths here? Oh well.

Author: Ellie Capezzuto http://goth.urbanup.com/1800058
236. (goth) (0↑, 8↓)
a freakin freak of nature who sits nesxt to you in class and has a picture of satan on their binder, and it miserable and depressed constantly because they are fat and gay.

Joe: Hay dude did you see that fat bitch sitting in math class who paints her face white? Tommy: yah dude she is a freakin retard, i hope she eats shit Joe: yah she must be one of those goth idiots

237. (goth) (0↑, 9↓)
How many goths seem to adhere to the mentality that they are the most intelligent, unique, intresting and creative poeople you will ever met(quoted with the spelling errors from a goth no less). That they are some how MORE unique and intelligent than the rest of us. Not only is this insulting, but blatantly false; testimony to this fact being all the poorly written definitions I read from "goths." Ironically, since most goths (and by "goths," I refer to their "culture" or "subculture" as they've defined it) seem to think that they are somehow more intelligent, interesting and/or creative than the rest of us, this alludes to another character trait entirely, or namely, arrogance. Boring, arrogant, uninteresting, un-innovative gothics. I believe this issue has been exhausted. I propose that we build a giant cannon, gather up all the gothics, pack them into the cannon, and launch them into a brick wall. SLAM. No more goths. Maybe then they'd have a reason to be depressed. That is, if any of them lived. They're all so pale and weak that a mere launch into a brick wall might finish them off. (all of this has been taken and slightly altered from www.thebestpageintheuniverse.com, http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.n et/c.cgi?u=gothics, http://www.thebestpageintheuniver se.net/c.cgi?u=gothagain) credits to maddox

Lets face it Goths blow and if i had the chance i wud kill u by giving u aids

Author: SomeChavFromEssexButWotYouGunnaDo? http://goth.urbanup.com/2146942
238. (Goth) (11↑, 20↓)
A fascination with death and the morbid. The style of goth, which some goths may or may not wear, often includes black hair, pale skin, large quantities of metal jewelry, piercings, etc. Some goths may be considered [poser]s for they dress in the gothic style in order to gain attention and to be "different." The irony in this lies that they are all different, and thus all the same.

I was horrified to find it becoming a "trend" to be gothic in the United States and in Europe.

Author: Chalk Outline http://goth.urbanup.com/1286035
239. (goth) (2↑, 12↓)
the only real cool people.

Us goths are different than the rest of the world.

Author: Jack Miskovsky http://goth.urbanup.com/2597190
240. (goth) (8↑, 19↓)
If you call yourself this, you're probably a poser. You probably seek to make yourself seem different and show your individuality... although, ohwait. Now you look just like all the other "goths". You also probably like to say you don't care what anyone thinks, though you spend a hell of a lot of time doing your makeup and hair whenever you go out. It's also very likely that you're overweight and bisexual. Many "goths" also hate that people treat them differently and "pick on them", and get sad/angry about it.

poser goth:"Why do people treat me differently all the time? *sniff*" Joe:"Probably because you look like a corpse."

Author: mydefinitionisbest. http://goth.urbanup.com/3665879
241. (goth) (3↑, 14↓)
1. A wedding style. 2. A type of poetry literature. Originated in 1960. Was a dissapointment to the idealistic roman poets. 3. A time period that was divided into two times. The early gothic and the late gothic. 4. Someone who is goth is most likely dark and sinister. They usually listen to death metal with anti-christian lyrics. This is who they are. Some of them wear a necklace with something that looks like a cross but it isn't. It is called an ankh. It is a symbol of regeneration. It was supposably created for Egyption Vampires..? Although Goth has little to do with religion, they are sinister. If a "Goth" doesn't fit into one of these, they are most likely a poser.

Goths are not any better or any less than anyone else. They dress different and act a little different. But they have just as much normality on the inside as everyone else.

242. (goth) (4↑, 15↓)
One who scorns corporations, conformity, and the latest fashion trends. Most commonly found at malls - the biggest corporations of conformity that house the latest fashion trends.

Jimbo: I hate people who buy and wear clothes that conform to a particular lifestyle. Joseph: Same here. Hey, do you want to go get some black jeans with a lot of unneccessary pockets and chains to show off our goth lifestyle? Jimbo: You read my mind.

243. (Goth) (1↑, 12↓)
By reading all of the definitions of Goth below, I have concluded that, in addition to the traditional meanings of the word Gothic, the "goths" of today are people fixated on thinking they are somehow unique, admirable and special while ripping off a style popularized \goth20 years ago. Kind of hard to be unique with seven BILLION people on the planet, but I bet yo mama thinks your black clothes, eye-liner and pierced brow r cute\!

Didn't that Goth look die 20 years ago?

Author: Popular Girl http://goth.urbanup.com/1628172
244. (goth) (2↑, 13↓)
originally interesting original inspiring subculture inspired by the cure. has now sunk to a load of losers dresing in black and leather coats threatening anyone who goes near them with knuckledusters, or even more fatal, the smell that seems to radiate off them. think anybody that smiles is a chav.no-one understands or is good as them even tho they hate themselves. listen to slipknot and korn. clothes must be almost all black, hair must be dyed unless naturally black. goth girls show far much more flesh than wanted by anyone. has two offspring tribes-grungers(look for the nirvana hoodies) and emos(at least 10 piercings, stumbling around blindly due to hair covering eyes.

goth:look at those chavs, have to follow a fashion not like me in my leather coat and offspring hoodie,losers.im gona go cut miself now

245. (goth) (1↑, 12↓)
A fucking shit bag that smells like John Kerry.

Dude I went to the local hick store and bought some bags of goth to keep my garden fertile.

246. (Goth) (9↑, 22↓)
People need to quit saying "Oh, goths are unique, creative people\!' Then why are there many other people that dress like them\!?\! Exactly\! Anyway, I'll give you a def. Goths are sadistic people who wear black and red and have 1000 piercings and worship Satan and get a kick out of everyone who is afraid of them. Goths also like to cover their face with their hair so they bump into walls.

Person: AHHHH\!\! Goth: Haha, oops, bumped into wall.

247. (Goth) (25↑, 38↓)
A goth is a person who generally wears black clothing, and wears make-up regardless of gender. A lot of goths listen to a range of music, not all necessarily even metal. (side note: I would like to point out that it is NOT SlipKnoT's fault they were included in this 'Nu-metal' idea, they are a heavy metal band, and that is that) Anyway, most goths are intelligant. They do not start fights with Chavs, because they know there is no point at all. Goths are not Satanists, a small amount of them may well be, but mostly they just LOOK intimidating, that's why Chav's tend to attack in packs of about 20, so there is no chance of Goths defending themselves, but I think if there was a 1 on 1, a Goth would win hands-down. All goths have their own styles of clothing, all different in several ways, whereas all Chavs look the same, in their fake gold and fake burbery (if that is spelled right). Chavs also use the same old insults at goths, like 'Greeb''Greebo' etc.. Anyway, because I don't know what else to say, here is a list of metal bands than goths are likely to listen to: 13 Candles, 1349, 3 Inches Of Blood, 5000 BC, 9X Dead, Abigail's Mercy, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Amon Amarth, Angra, Antaia, Anthrax, Apparition, Arcane Theory, Arch Enemy, As I Lay Dying, At The Gates, Atura, Avenged Sevenfold, Black Sabbath, Black Label Society, Bleeding Through, Bile, Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Chaos Incarnated, Children Of Bodom, Chimaira, City In Ruins, Coal Chamber, Conquest Of Steel, Cradle Of Filth, Creed, Darkthrone, Daysend, Deathstars, Denied Faith, Destruction 412, DevilDriver, Dimmu Borgir, Dirty Little Child, Dissection, Disturbed, Dope, Dragonforce, Dream Evil, Drowning Pool, Drop Dead Evil, Dry Kill Logic, Enchained, Enlisted Menace, Ensiferum, Enslaved, Evanescence, Fear Factory, Fear My Thoughts, Finntroll, Flaw, God Forbid, Godsize, Godsmack, Graveworm, Habitual, Hammerfall, Hanzel und Gretyl, Hard8Eight, HIM, Holotype, Ill Nino, Immortal, In Flames, inTERRORGATE, Iron Maiden, Jimi Hendrix, Joe Satriani, Judas Priest, Kamelot, Killswitch Engage, Kittie, KoRn, Kreator, Lacuna Coil, Lamb Of God, Linkin Park, Lordi, Machine Head, Marilyn Manson, Mastodon, Megadeth, Megahurz, Meshuggah, Millencolin, Mother Earth, Motorhead, Mudvayne, Murderdolls, Mushroomhead, Napalm Death, Necrophagist, Nevermore, Nightwish, Nile, NIN, Nirvana, Obituary, Omnium Gatherum, One Minute Silence, Opeth, Orgy, Overlorde, Pantera, P.O.D, Primal Fear, Queen, Queensryche, Quiet Riot, Rage, Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, Rhapsody, Riot, Ripped Speed, Roadrunner United, Satyricon, Screams for Tina, Sepultura, Severed, Six Feet Under, Skindred, Slayer, Slaves on Dope, SlipKnoT, Smokin' Tequila, Sonata Arctica, Soulfly, Staind, Static-X, Spineshank, Status Quo, Steel Dragon, Steve Vai, Stone Sour, Symphony In Peril, System Of A Down, Sub Dub Micromachine, Terror Rain, The Misfits, Trivium, Turisas, Unleash The Fury, Vader,Van Halen, Vehemence, Venom, Viking Skull, Violent Work of Art, Vital Remains, Winter Solstice, Within Temptation

Chav:"There's a greeb', let's go beat the crap outta him for no apparent reason" Goth:"Well this isn't fair, there's like, 20 of them\!" Chav:"What would everyone like me to wear today?" Goth:"What do I want to wear today?"

248. (goth) (13↑, 26↓)
1 - Adj. An art and architectural style often involving towers, gargoyles, and spires. May also describe people who lived in the time and places that these buildings and pieces were constructed or painted. 2 - N. A type of person, divided into two sub-categories: A) Emo (ee' - moe) Goth - The original goth, someone who believes that their life is horrible or mediocre at best, and therefor writes poetry that often includes the word "nihilistic" and love songs. Using bands like Death Cab for Cutie and Brand New to think for them, Emo Goths dye their hair black or red, avoid all eye contact if possible, and flip their long, unkempt hair to the side every so often. They have a habit of staring at the floor and scratching the back of their head with their arms crossed. B) Hot Topic Goth - At first, 14-year-olds who enjoyed the Emo look (dyed black hair, old clothes), but did not understand the music (as if there was anything to understand). They were not typically accepted by the rest of the Emo crowd for one reason or another, and therefor shunned by the most shunned group of society. This group is typically ignored by most humans, except for other Hot Topic Goths, so they will stop at nothing to attract attention to themselves. Most Hot Topic goths are bisexual, have abnormal hair colors (green, red, purple), paint their faces black and white in patterns that would have you believe that they have been crying and have some form of depth, play Dance Dance Revolution, and watch Japanese Anime. Also, every hot topic goth must listen to strictly heavy metal, industrial, house, trance, techno, chemical/acid/breakbeat, J-rock, and J-pop. Most of which don't know the difference in the different electronic music genres of which they listen to, and simply incorrectly classify them all as "techno". Most Hot Topic goths, when asked as to why they dress the way they do, reply that they are "misunderstood" and have that other people will not get it, but it is well understood that it is for attemption, and the misunderstood defense is that of faux depth in a shallow goth's personality.

Look at that goth, he's so understandingly misunderstood.

249. (goth) (15↑, 28↓)
Of course, the Goths were a medieval tribe who sacked Rome. They are also a subculture full of morons who decide one day that they like "dark" things in order to fit in. Now, to address the issue of so-called "intelligent, true nonconformists interested in the dark side of things": if they were truly interested in individuality and free thought, they wouldn't categorize themselves in a subculture and confine themself to that definition. Nor is it acceptable to say that there are MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF GOTHS OMG. If you're comfortable in your person and in your views and beliefs, you probably won't be calling yourself a goth in the first place, nor being accused of being one. Therefore there isn't really much of a need to even haughtily deny in between puffs of clove cigarettes, "I'm NOT a goth\!"

"Stupid Goths always trying to sack my city."

250. (goth) (4↑, 18↓)
a rebel too "tough" to become and emo

look at tom, he's such a goth with his rebellious haircut, rebellious music, rebellious clothes, rebellious speech, and rebellious make-up

Author: (blank)______ http://goth.urbanup.com/3594975
251. (goth) (4↑, 18↓)
Another word for nerd. Often enjoys anime and dressing up to distract people from the fact that they're just another boring sissified suburbanite. Very often a confused 13 year old girl having trouble fitting in.

That unattractive girl tried to make herself sexier and more interesting by becoming a goth.

Author: djangoshootsfirst http://goth.urbanup.com/3180731
252. (Goth) (3↑, 17↓)
1) A person that was part of an old Northern European group. This group was extremely Christian and designed many great churchs that are still used today. 2) very stupid people who think they are goth just because they dress in black, even though they are usually atheists, agnostics, or loose christians. These people are often homosexual. 3) a term that is used when talking about a person who likes to dress in black.

1) I'm glad that I belong to a Gothic church. 2) Fred: hey Jerry, guess what? I'm a Goth Jerry: no, your an idiot. 3) Hey that kid is a Goth because he dresses in black\!

253. (goth) (9↑, 23↓)
Goths are a part of a counter-cultural movement that embraces the dark side of life. Though some goths are depressed and suicidal, this is not the true basis for the gothic culture. As a [counter-culture], goths have a point for their existence. They express their opposition to the norm, their desire for individuality, as well as their pain and suffering through their style, music, attitudes, and spiritual beliefs. Goths are not devil-worshippers, anti-prep, or fixated on death. They are intelligent, individualistic human beings who simply express themselves differently from the mainstream. Here are some stereotypes of goths: -they never smile -they never laugh -they always wear black -they worship satan -they are depressed, suicidal -they are obsessed with death -they hate preps -they do drugs There are also many types of goths out there. For example, there is your stereotypical goth, your cyber goth, your emo/goth, your industrial goth, your Victorian goth, and many more. In general, every goth has his/her own definition as to what goth is. So don't knock anyone else's defintion or criticize others for their views.

Gothic is a subculture as well as counter-culture which embraces the dark side of life.

Author: Kimberly 2000 http://goth.urbanup.com/1812861
254. (goth) (10↑, 24↓)
It has been said that the only thing worst than a conformist is the one who conforms to nonconformist standards. In essence, that is what has become of the goth subculture. Originally a sharp reaction to preps and [jocks], the goth standard has melted down into a standard that cannot be deviated from. Modern day goths follow the same routine and habits: They listen to metal and death metal music, such as Slipknot and Led Zeppelin; they dress in nothing but black; they wear clothing from the unusual (fishnet) to the bizzare (high-top black leather boots); they have many piercings on their body, including (but not limited to) the eyebrows, tongue, belly-button, and lips; they shop at Hot Topic; they describe themselves as 'twisted' or 'dark'. There are more examples I can think of, but by now, you should have a clear mental picture of what a goth is. We all know a goth; (s)he sticks out like a sore thumb. The goth subculture is burning itself up, because it was originally a reaction to conformism. Now, it has simply creatly a new standard to conform to.

There goes that goth chick, with her leather outfit and mowhawk hair dyed green.

255. (goth) (4↑, 19↓)
A label people give to themselves to see themselves in a certain way, and/or to hope that other people will see them in this way also. There are many definitions of dress-code and personality types, (some would say that they are really creative and intelligent, others would say that they are people who have experienced more pain than most people) but it's just a label that was invented by ordinary people and for ordinary people, probably out of attention-seeking. Now the word seems to be spoken in two ways: As an insult to people who seem this way, and by people who are this way to describe themselves or maybe friends of theirs.

Example I: -"Hey, there's that stupid goth." -"Yeah, what an asshole. Let's throw stuff at him/her." Example II: -"Oh yeah, I am SUCH a goth." -"Can you define 'goth' for me, then?" -"*Insert one of thousands of definitions here*"

256. (goth) (7↑, 22↓)
A sub-culture in high school and early college that have fallen out with popular modern culture. They are also known as non-conformists. Most Goths try to create a "unique" and "original" style by becoming the opposite of what they hate. In doing so, they come to a conformist state of their own and exclude those who aren't "hardcore" or cool enough.

Blake changed his name to Blaque because he's a freakin' Goth.

Author: Andrew M. Smith http://goth.urbanup.com/1408315
257. (Goth) (20↑, 36↓)
A subculture pretty much composed of hopeless bums, the founder of which thought it would be super swell to name their fun little group after the music they liked which was named after, I don't know... say... a group of GERMAN INVADERS, and/or a style of architecture utilized in the late middle ages (Durham Castle is a prime example of diffusion between the Romanesque and Gothic styles, actually, but the pure style involves thin columns, pointed archways, many stained-glass windows (making the GOTHIC cathedrals very BRIGHT), all supported by flying buttresses. Heh, the Goths I define, not known particularly for expansive intellects, will laugh at that one.). They prize themselves in being dark, sensitive and artistic, but most importantly, NOT POPULAR. Damn those popular kids\! Popularity is sooooo overrated. (Yes, they all secretly want to be popular but find they cannot because nobody actually likes them) And by all means, they are NOT poseurs. In fact, the people whom they detest most are poseurs. You know, people who try to be like them, but could never attain the glory that is... GOTH\! I'll tell you what. Wanna be a nonconformist? Spend your time at the library instead of slitting your wrists, clad in men's work shirts, ties and pocket-protectors. Maybe then you'll actually make something of yourself. And you don't have to be popular, either\!

Regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student (mockingly): Hey, emo kid. When you get depressed, do you cut your wrists in every direction? Does singing songs about getting dumped give you an erection? Nineteen-year-old "Gothic" college-dropout: LIEK ZOMGZ\!\!\! I AM NOT EMO\!\! EMO KIDS ARE POSEURS\!\! *punches regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student* Regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student: It's funny that you did that, because much to your chagrin, I actually have the education necessary to not only submit a complaint to the police department, but defend myself in your battery case\! Too bad you spent your days in your dark, depressing oblivion drawing pretty pictures of bleeding unicorns, not taking advantage of your parents' tuition savings. Good luck\!

Author: Lauren. Yeah, that's right, I'm not so much of a coward that I can't even post my name. http://goth.urbanup.com/1568402
258. (goth) (2↑, 20↓)
Individual who just want express themselves in the way they act and dress. The most frequent choice of messages expressed seem to be "Black", "Spiky" and "Angry". Goths are often quite lovely people so long as you don't mention this fact. There is no known goth over the age of twenty-two.

"All my goth friends dress in black, avoid sunlight and body pierce, maybe if i do that i'll be individual too".

259. (goth) (7↑, 25↓)
Dirty pricks who wear all black and studded leather neck colaars and belts. They usually don't take showers and smell like four week old unwiped ass. These creatures often worship death and have no real life, some what similar to emo people who are just gay. These "humans" most often listen to shitty punk/goth/emo/queer music. Due to their homosexual natures, they mostly spend their time buttfucking and being gay.

normal person: "Dude, why the goth clothing" Goth fag queef bag: "Why the fuck do u care\!\!\! I can make my own decisions about being a douche and suckin pale small pasty dick."

Author: Javon Dontrell http://goth.urbanup.com/1913259
260. (goth) (6↑, 25↓)
Goth=those fucking black clouds that think they are so totally depressed and fucked up that people will notice them. Usually they turn goth because 1)They have no friends 2) They are fucking ugly and decided to make the best of the situation 3) It's the latest trend. Goths fuck up the musical world for the rest of us that like death metal/black metal, because by listening to shit they don't even understand and trying to get noticed people automatically assume that death/black metal is as superficial and stupid as goth itself. Great bands such as Slayer, Arch Enemy, In Flames and Emperor are spoiled daily by these make up wearing freakshows. There is no such thing as a "real" goth. Edgar Allen Poe was a great writer, but not someone you can base your entire image on. In short, goths are posers that spoil music for the rest of us and should be burned.

Goths wear black, have several piercings, ridiculously overdone make-up and emanate fuckface rays.

Author: fuckgothsintheassbeforetheyspread http://goth.urbanup.com/1797987
261. (Goth) (7↑, 26↓)
People who express their individuality and dislike of societies conventions by, ironically, rebelling in the same way. They conform to a gothic convention of wearing black clothes, black makeup and having an even blacker outlook on life. These conventions are often enforced by a group mentality even stronger than the one they claim to oppose. Also an old tribe from Europe - but that is lost on many who call themselves goth because listening in ancient history class is definately not cool for a goth

Newbie Goth: Can I be a goth and wear colorful clothes? Elder Goth: No\!\!\! Only weird black clothes are allowed to express your individuality\! Newbie Goth: I dont get it?

262. (Goth) (14↑, 34↓)
"...morose subculture of Gothic fantasy." bullet "They're basically outcasts, Gothic people, They're into anarchy. They're white supremacists and they're into Nostradamus stuff and Doomsday." "Black trench coats are a consistent theme in the Gothic subculture that has attracted many teenagers to the poetry, music and costumes of a scene that ranges from benign fantasy to violent reality." "Inspired by fantasy games such as Dungeons and Dragons, Gothic has become a fascination of many American high schoolers, some of whom simply dress and paint their fingernails black while others immerse themselves in a pseudo medieval world of dark images." "Tuesday was Hitler's birthday, an occasion for demonstrations, mock funerals and other macabre commemorations among both [neo-Nazis] and parts of the Gothic scene." Depressed, Unusually bigoted, Violent, Suicidal, Involved in illegal drugs, Vampires or believe themselves to be vampires, Sado-masochists, Satanists, Musicians, painters, and other artists, Computer programmers (although there seem to be a lot of them) Wearers of black (some wear white and gunmetal), Dyers of their hair, Users of white makeup. These are some of the stereotypes Goths have to deal with everyday, though some do fall into them. In reality, Goth is in finding beauty in the most unexpected places, having knowledge and eloquence. There are many different types of Goths including [Romantic Goth], [Gothic Lolita](which I would fall under), [Cyber Goth], [Perky Goth], [Glitter Goth], [Fetish Goth], [Industrial Goth], [Ethereal], [Mall Goths] and many, many more. Each has their own taste in clothing and music, but we all have the same general sense of dark beauty. People seem to see us as morose and disturbed, they degrade us by seeing one supposed Goth doing something damnable(the ones like this are generally Poser Goths with no idea about our subculture.) and assume we're all into that. It's wrong, that's like saying all preppies are snobs or all jocks only think about sex. We don't hate people who are different from us on the outside, we aren't sadists or masochists, we are normal people who dress a certain way, listen to some sort of music and look for beauty in all things, we are the way we are because we are comfortable with it. It's upsetting to see the way people are towards us and their misconceptions. Also, those of you who talk about how we're whinny, depressed, and cut ourselves, you're thinking [emo]. We are not emo and calling a true Goth emo is like calling a girl a boy, it's idiotic and wrong.

Here are some examples of things I have gone through as a goth, before and during my Gothic Lolita days. I walk down the hall of my school and go to my locker, but soon am surrounded by the ignorant youths that inhabited said educational establishment. "Hey, freak\!" one would shout, pushing me into my locker. I turn around and ask them to leave me alone. "No\! You baby killing Satan worshiper." the leader accused, "I'm a Christian. I can't leave until you repent of your sins, if you don't, you'll go to Hell." This would be where I smile sarcastically. "Well, aren't you a great Christian." my sarcasm ends and begins and my voice then holds a tone full of anger, "Look, I'm a Christian myself, and this isn't a very Christlike thing to do, so why don't you move and let me get to class." By that time my friends had seen what was going on and moved in, due to the number of them, both Goth and not, they ran. In another instance, a group of friends and I were walking to another's house. We were soon stopped by a group of wigger kids. "Oh, look at the baby eating freaks." one heckled followed by the laughter of his friends. "F*** any dead bodies lately?" By this time, I was clearly annoyed. "What's you're problem, poser? Have we done anything to you?" I questioned, barely keeping myself from hitting them. "Oh, it looks like the little girl has the balls." he reached into his pocket, more than likely for a knife, so I, in turn, leaned down to my boot, where I always kept a small blade. "Look, losers," my sixteen year old male friend started, "why don't you go get a life and leave us alone." He grabbed my arm and shoved his way through the group, our two friends on our tails. "by the way," called my friend, a fifteen year old female, "if you want to talk to a baby eater, try *****" (The name was censored for reasons.) I have had many more instances similar to those, all having to do with ignorant baboons.

Author: Jewel[GothicLoli] http://goth.urbanup.com/2697522
263. (goth) (6↑, 27↓)
the result of putting edgar allan poe in the blender with three dirty socks, a dead frog's penis, and a can of Raid.

gothic goth gothitude gothidaaaaaaaay

264. (Goth) (5↑, 26↓)
Goths stand for everything that is not prep, we stand for death, we stand for hate, we stand for the darkness in life and we live to make that darkness overwhelm everything and everyone while preps stand for the blissful ignorance in life, blind content and stupidly believing every thing will be alright. Us goths dont nessacarily hate preps we just hate their ignorance and how much crap they start. preps hate how different we are, to them we are an imperfection in their seemingly perfect ignorant life and they hate how we make them think about life, how we actually make them think, "why do they do the things they do? is there something about all this that i'm missing?". Us goths simply seek to tear down your life and make you see life isnt a happy little playground where ocasionally you might get a scraped knee, we want you to know death is everywhere and your not immune to it, in fact your even more susceptible to it. goths enjoy darkness and everything evil. we wear black because we simply want to wear black. We dont fear death and that makes us stronger. we dont squirm away from a challenge, we look at it and think "what is the best way to solve my problem?". we, goths, are everything and nothing.

Prep:Why are you so evil? Goth: i'm not nessacarily evil, i'm the endless amount of tortured souls. i represent destruction, hate and everything that comes with it. Prep: (freaked out) ..what do you mean? Goth: Hahaha have you ever wondered why? Prep: why what? Goth: no, just why... Prep: i dont understand Goth: yes you do. you just refuse to see it...(walks away) Prep: (stands there shaking, trying to forget what had just happened in hopes that he can go on with his ignorance in peace)

Author: Alex AKA Azagroth http://goth.urbanup.com/2232704
265. (Goth) (12↑, 34↓)
A clique of people viewed as many things, including whiny, artistic, brilliant, and scary. Hypocritically non-conformist, as the goths you see most of (supposedly posers) all wear clothes that were taken out of a burned down Hot Topic and share the same pessimistic attitude. Most of them probably have a great life and still bitch about how mean their parents are. They do not worship the Devil, I'll give them that. Worshiping the Devil is just something that extreme right wing politicians make up to make artists who speak their mind look bad.

Marilyn Manson is not a Goth. More than half of the population of a school for the arts is probably Goths.

Author: Mat Marshall19808 http://goth.urbanup.com/1411961
266. (goth) (5↑, 29↓)
Goths are not envy people, we don't hate everybody, most are writers, painters, poets, skateboarders, or in their own band. Most goths still wear black, studded jewerly, black eye liner, and bright makeup, skulls, snakes, Hot Topic, HIM, FOB, AFI, Pantera, some don't wear those maybe because sometimes Hot Topic can be expensive very much the goth look is money, so some have to go non-goth look but that doesn't mean they are not goth. Told by a friend I was told by a group I'm with that you are only goth at heart if you love talking of death in sad or sweet way, ghost loving, ninjas, vampires, werewolves, black, snakes, talking of pyschopaths, obessed about things on the dark side and that you don't have to dress goth to be one. Goths can be satanics (satanics also do not hate everyone, wear black or are haters of other churches or religious views they just think the good guy sucks, but that doesn't mean they don't love people or people that go to church, they just hate light proberly or angelical things or just hate the whole church idea) goths also can not be one but its not like they don't mention the Anti-Christ or devil or a demon once in awhile, goths tend to swear alot or have weird ways of talking. Goths love metal, emotive hardcore, punk, or a ruff band like Incubus, Pantera, FOB, My Chemical Romance etc. Also are very much like emos except they are not as emotional instead they are very happy and tend to be less about cutting or suicide thoughts but more on the topic of death but not killing themselves just being funny about death. Or about some Steven King movie or about a place that is haunted. 3: Goths usually believe in athesim, satanism, occults, witchcraft, orbs, ghosts, the whole afterlife, believe in a hell. Even tho each religion above has had ruff views and a past witchcraft just comes from the term wiccan which means :Mother nature or norishment to the earth, and really they only believe in the doctorine of healing, medicine, and provided good crop and fortune to nature they are not a devil's messenger or are gonna kill everyone, athesim well no comment but athiest's are very nice people, and ghosts well most goths say they love a certain haunted place or have seen a ghost and love the whole spooky thing. And satanism is from :Satan & a form of which, that yea most think they lit candles, perform an evil sconce, and so forth but really they also have been in the past to show that out of bad also comes good and good can sometimes be bad, and that some also interact with the church of Christ. 4: For example some back thru 1300 to 1800s believed that maybe satan was the brother of Christ in one scripture it foretold that he once was the highest angel and according to greek mythology that Zeus aka today referred also to Jesus his brother was Hades aka Satan and that they were the brothers with total enemies against each other. The eurines or winged beings are angel and the Defalurus the de-faulted or the failers that descened into She'Ol the old term for Hell or the underworld. 5: gothism is also from a german branch the gothic church 6: Gothism is referred also to Goti ghosts of the abyss 7: goth is a fashion started in somewhere in late 60s but spread in the 80s punk 9: Some just cannot comphrehend to think what goth is

"Gimme me shoes gosh damit, a ninja is not good without balance." "I'm goth but I'm not so shallow" "I am not goth" "Goth people are hot"

Author: Waverly hills angel http://goth.urbanup.com/2553575
267. (goth) (13↑, 37↓)
A person of average or ugly appearance that attempts to draw attention to themselves by dressing in all black and/or doing their make-up badly. This goes for males and females. Males with black nail polish are especially needy bc why else would you want to wear such an ugly color on ur hands? Males and females usually have oddly colored hair that makes you wonder if they meant it to look like it got stuck in a cotton candy maker. Also, they listen to music in which you cannot understand any of the words over the loud and pathetic guitars in the background. They say they frown upon social norms when all they really want is to be like the rest of society, but they fear they will be rejected, therefore they are social hermits that form fragile friendships in which drugs and sex are their biggest links to each other.

I've never seen a pretty goth.

268. (goth) (6↑, 33↓)
People who arent very emotional (basically opposite to emos) wear dark baggy clothing, often listen to heavy music, and are really good at Dance Dance Revolution. Not that bad people, alot of them are really good writers. Contrary to popular belief, goth was not created by 80s bands, but was invented in Germany in the late 60s. They were typically rebels who wore dark clothes and left there hair long, often shunning authority.

1. Wow that goth is kicking that emo's ass in DDR.

Author: redribbon555 http://goth.urbanup.com/2138503
269. (goth) (9↑, 36↓)
Goths are non conformists. Meaning they do what normal people don't. Some people take it too litteraly though.

Im such a non conforming goth, im not going to wear black and have sputniks piercings everywhere.

Author: Jimberley Kim http://goth.urbanup.com/1172228
270. (goth) (8↑, 36↓)
1. A member of a nomadic tribe which inhabited Europe at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire. 2. US vernacular for a faux-punky individual who takes pride in their image ad nauseam and thinks everyone else should have a similar image. Often they have large numbers of friends who look and think just the same and piss on those who are not in their group. They get their clothes from places which sell rubbish at huge prices. Therefore I firmly believe they can be dispensed with, for their image-over-substance led lifestyle is inimical to society. See also [prep].

1. "Ahhhh\! The Goths are coming\!\!\! Hide\!" 2. "Pfft... Shurrup Bradley yer fuckin' gothic\!\!"

271. (Goth) (6↑, 35↓)
A subculture pretty much composed of hopeless bums, the founder of which thought it would be super swell to name their fun little group after the music they liked which was named after, I don't know... say... a group of GERMAN INVADERS, and/or a style of architecture utilized in the late middle ages (Durham Castle is a prime example of diffusion between the Romanesque and Gothic styles, actually, but the pure style involves thin columns, pointed archways, many stained-glass windows (making the GOTHIC cathedrals very BRIGHT), all supported by flying buttresses. Heh, the Goths I define, not known particularly for expansive intellects, will laugh at that one.). They prize themselves in being dark, sensitive and artistic, but most importantly, NOT POPULAR. Damn those popular kids\! Popularity is sooooo overrated. (Yes, they all secretly want to be popular but find they cannot because nobody actually likes them) And by all means, they are NOT poseurs. In fact, the people whom they detest most are poseurs. You know, people who try to be like them, but could never attain the glory that is... GOTH\! I'll tell you what. Wanna be a nonconformist? Spend your time at the library instead of slitting your wrists, clad in men's work shirts, ties and pocket-protectors. Maybe then you'll actually make something of yourself. And you don't have to be popular, either\!

Regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student (mockingly): Hey, emo kid. When you get depressed, do you cut your wrists in every direction? Does singing songs about getting dumped give you an erection? Nineteen-year-old "Gothic" college-dropout: LIEK ZOMGZ\!\!\! I AM NOT EMO\!\! EMO KIDS ARE POSEURS\!\! *punches regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student* Regular, pretty cool, intellectual college student: It's funny that you did that, because much to your chagrin, I actually have the education necessary to not only submit a complaint to the police department, but defend myself in your battery case\! Too bad you spent your days in your dark, depressing oblivion drawing pretty pictures of bleeding unicorns, not taking advantage of your parents' tuition savings. Good luck\!

272. (goth) (13↑, 48↓)
A loser with no personality who listens to Slipknot.. Most fans of what people consider real goth bands like Christian Death, etc, and goth metal like Paradise Lost, don't go around trying to use wearing all black as an excuse for having no personality. Goth's dress generally in all black and for some fucked up reason enjoy to indulge in depression. Thousands of goth fags are replying to this thread saying, real goth's don't listen to Slipknot, etc, but that's bullshit. A typical goth listens to Slipknot because they think their underground and original, dress in all black just because all the other "goth"'s do and have nearly no social lives. They choose not to associate themselves with preps, skaters (not the ones who own a skateboard and think their good cause they can ollie and maybe shuv it in the grass or while not moving.. real skaters), sane metalheads (Black metal fags they tend to like.. Not Celtic Frost, etc, fans, but Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, etc fags. Metalheads with a decent taste in music like Malmsteen, Exodus, Overkill, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Blind Illusion, Rush, Angel Witch, Death, etc, usually are too "conformist" for them cause they choose not to dress in all black and "rebel" against everything that is minimally popular, mainstream, etc). There is no such thing as real goths. It's bullshit they came up with just so they could look like "rebels". Goths are pathetic, hypocritical, voids of personality. And IMO, it's much less homo-erotic to just listen to what music you like (for me it's anything from jazz like John Scofield and Coltrane/jazz-rock fusion like Dark Hall and At War With Self, to mainstream alt. rock/metal like Alice In Chains, REM and System of a Down to metal like Overkill, Sceptic, Vader, Paradox, Testament and Helloween.. And anything from any other genre that I like), wear what you like (and no, all black with 4 pounds of chains thrown in isn't creative) and just do whatever the fuck you want (like Cliff Burton sai.d "Control your life through insanity")

Goth 1: Dude, look at my new black pants I bought this weekend.. They only cost $240... Fight the system man.. Goth 2: I know, why can't people just understand that we're individuals that enjoy expressing ourselves in the least creative way possible and listening to music that is horrible and talentless (which for some reason makes it original and unique).. Goth 1: Deep.

273. (goth) (12↑, 48↓)
word used to describe [losers] who like to say that they are going to kill themselves and then do not follow through with it. Typically a spoiled kid whos parents let them do anything. This group of people says that they like to "be different" and be an "indiviual", but fail to relize that they are just putting themselves into another group for other people to make fun of them in.

"im so goth i shit bats" gothy: im cut myself kid: where? gothy: my wrists kid: lemme see........wrong side dumbass

274. (goth) (6↑, 44↓)
[gothic] isnt a fashion or a look or a desition. Gothic is a state of mind where sad, morbid thoughts, and lonliness takes occurance. You dont have to dress goth to be goth. Black represents lonliness so thats a chosen color.

i feel alone....i feel like i wanna watch u die....i feel sad.....i feel goth.

Author: sloan zuniga http://goth.urbanup.com/1844803
275. (Goth) (6↑, 46↓)
Any person who wears dark clothes and paints black lipstick around their facial features. They are dying for attention and constantly try to be "different" while at the same time bogusly claiming that they are "indifferent". Some of them think they are vampires or some real-life death fairy. They often carry an emergency suicide kit consisting of a Mach 3 razor, a bottle of Advil, and dental floss to hang themselves.

The Goth look was popular in late 80's and early 90's but fell to the wayside when wiggering came into style.

Author: Justice Served http://goth.urbanup.com/3296816
276. (goth) (10↑, 51↓)
A severe or advance case of emo. An emo kid who has turned to darkness, but an emo nonetheless.

"I got tired of being uncared for, i'm going goth"

277. (goth) (7↑, 49↓)
Someone who fears death so much that they cover that fear with dark words and clothing. The tipical goth, wears black make up and writes poetry and makes people belive that they want to die, but when it comes down to it, they are just as scared as the rest of us. The only people who really want to die are [depressed].

Goth Chick: The world is a black hole. Why don't we all die? Depressed Chick: How many pills does it take to be fatal?

Author: Julia, infamous rock n' roller http://goth.urbanup.com/2207900
278. (goth) (29↑, 80↓)
before: a style of architecture now: someone who "doesnt care what anybody thinks" yet before he/she leaves the house, they make sure their chains are the right length when they hang down from his/her black pants and they reapply their eye liner

prep: oooh i love hesse mcartney goth: that guys a fag prep: ok goth: WHAT DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? WELL I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY THINKS\! goth: but before you go, does my mowhack look alright?

279. (goth) (20↑, 76↓)
People who are black everywhere, except their skin.

I am a goth. Most of us think we're depressed, but we probably live in upper to middle class homes and we get to buy clothing with zippers and holes in them for hundreds of dollars, even though most people can make it themselves for much less.

280. (goth) (1↑, 59↓)
A culture that follows Wicca (belief of white magic etc), not satanists, they listen to industrial rave (or whatever you call it) or soft metal bands of which they think are heavy. They dont listen to death/black metal as people believe, people that listen to those genres are called metallers. Chavs think hippies, goths, emo's and metallers are all the same which is false. Goths wear alot of black, long leather coats and christian crosses on clothing or around their necks (sign of wicca as its an off shoot of catholic)

metallers - death metal, black metal, thrash metal goth - industrial/metal rave, nu-metal emo - emocore, hardcore (the least talented music)

Author: nick (metaller) http://goth.urbanup.com/2318249
281. (goth) (18↑, 104↓)
a freak who dresses up in black and listens to screamo to get attention

"damn that bitch is goth now? eww dawg"

282. (goth) (42↑, 146↓)
A person who believes he or she is expressing their individuality by dressing and behaving in the exact same way to others who call themselves 'goths', yet in fact they are just becoming another clone. Usual goth characteristics include: Black clothes. Black hair. Long hair on males. General dirtiness and scruffiness. Usually inclined to attempting to write [poetry]. Wearing of 'dog collars' around the neck. Depression. (Either genuine or faked). Listening to heavy rock music, usually that which involves screaming so the lyrics are incomprehensible. The belief that these people are 'individuals', different from everyone else, even though they all conform to the same lifestyle and have the typical goth characteristics. Goths are usually attention seekers.

I want to get noticed more by dressing and acting like a freak, yet still insisting I'm beautiful and different. I think I'll become a Goth.

283. (Goth) (45↑, 191↓)
A weird, frightening person with a hideous, satanic appearance. Love to wear black clothing (usually with chains) and makeup. Hair often tends to be NOT one of the four natural colors. They act like they're devil-worshippers and are really looking like that just to scare people away.

Shit, I can scare people away just by clenching my fists and having a pissed off expression on my face; I don't need to go looking like that. (see also [carnies], [circus freaks], [anti-christ], [satanic]

284. (goth) (104↑, 262↓)
1. A Germanic peoples that likely originated as a minor ethnic group in Scandinavia and grew as they spread across Europe roughly two thousand years ago. Upon settling in areas around the Black Sea, they encountered the Roman Empire, and in the fourth century AD, sacked the city, putting the nail in the coffin for the mighty empire, and that was the end of that. 2. Short for 'gothic,' a musical and stylistic movement that came off the punk scene in the late 1970s with such bands as Bauhaus and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Popularity has waxed and waned since but the movement has remained intact to this day. Probably one of the most visually distinct subcultures around, characterized by a preference for dark clothing that is often influenced by Victorian, medieval and BDSM ascetics, among other things, and/or make-up, a pale complexion and some pretty interesting footwear. Since events like Columbine that sparked a witch hunt, goth culture has been accused of corrupting minors with Satanism, vampirism and violence. In truth, a great number of goths are actually intelligent, articulate and conscious people who, despite the foreboding appearance, are for the most part, more stimulating to be around than any of the varieties of chickenshit conformist that dominate the world today. 3. An angsty, angry suburban teenager who needs a great way to rebel against his or her unfair parents. What better way than with a Marilyn Manson t-shirt, a terrible black hair dye job and matching lipstick? Claiming to be 'gothic' because they listen to angry nu-metal bands like Slipknot and Korn, they often think their issues like drugs and self-mutilation contribute to their gawthick-ness. They will probably grow out of it in a few months and find something new to piss of their parents with. Until then, they'll just give the rest of us a bad name.

1. The hairy savages you see in your history book. See fall of Rome era. 2. People you might see wearing black velvet in the summertime, reading something darkly enlightening. 3. Might be the constantly scowling girl in a black Marilyn Manson t-shirt that can't apply her .99 cent Hot Topic black lipstick right, that sits in the back row and plays Manson on her headphones loud enough to annoy the adults.

Author: Seraphim's Rage http://goth.urbanup.com/567524
285. (goth) (28↑, 202↓)
Goth wear all black/ Fashion style they lack/ Dey walk around lookin wack/

some gay mofo on the street listenin 2 greenday. goth are gay\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!\!

286. (goth) (33↑, 259↓)
A person that : 1.) wears dark clothing 2.) has a dark sense of humor 3.) has tons of piercings 4.) is overall a very dark person 5.) knows the devil very well 6.) likes Tool, Drowning Pool, System of the Down, Marylin Manson, 7.) normal people do not understand 8.) can be a punk who wears black and white 9.) can sometimes be a vegan, 10.) suffer from bulemia at a young age 11.) likes to mess themselves up with drugs and booze 12.) has a morbid outlook on life Alternate definition: - one of those statues on old gothic cathedrals

"damn she looks like a goth" "eeew you're putting ketchup on that, you're such a goth"

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Last updated: 2012.02.29

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